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 Post subject: The Giving Tree
PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:05 pm 
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Can you give with out being a trick? Maybe...

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http://www2.zshares.net/2okc6psjpizr





Then look at this.
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*This will be a long one, but the GAME is fiya*
* You will be blessed by it*

The Breakdown Of "The Giving Tree".......

The Giving Tree is a very strong parable, that teaches one the PIMP GAME in a covert fashion. In the book, you have two main characters. The Tree and The Boy.

The Tree is The PIMP.
The Boy is The Whore.

Let's get into some deep GAME.

Let's go in.....In the Pimp GAME, you have two types of whores. There is the "Turn Out" and there is the "Burn Out". The "Boy" is the "Turn Out" whore. See in the Pimp GAME whores are turned out either through love or through..... check this out....."Giving"!!!!!

In the book the boy starts off young and innocent, unconcerned about life. Notice how the Tree fulfills all of the boy's needs but doesn't give the boy exactly what he wants, but the tree gives the boy what he wants him to have. Now doesn't that sound like a Pimp??? To give a whore what they want them to have, instead of what the whore really wants.

The boy asked the Tree for money. But the Tree didn't give the boy money. The Tree gave the boy apples, and the Tree told the boy if you take my apples you can sell them and get the money.

That's some GAME. If you also notice that the tree did this throughout the whole story. The tree was turning the boy into a whore. This is turning a bitch out. Giving the whore the illusion of receiving what they want.

There is this southern rapper/pimp named Tela. Now on Tela's album "Now or Never", Tela gives a step by step plan on how to turn a bitch out through "Giving" in his song Big Pimp is I. These are the words of Tela:

"Put that ass on a plane first class and not coach.
Fuck w/ her head a lil bit, before you show the whore the ropes.

Let her know, everything you say and do is all true.
Even if you lie, she'll believe the plan is fool proof.

Clear blue skies coming in on continental.....the Game ain't changed it's all the same, you see it quite simple.
You take her to the shop, to get her hair and nails done,
Take her to the mall, buy her some pieces some real nice ones. Like Chanel suits and boots, never give the whore the loot, everything that she possess must come through you".

Now for some it may seem like the pimp is a trick, that is if your third eye is not open. Mickey Royal stated that there is a thin line between a trick and a pimp. The trick gives to receive sex, but a pimp gives to receive checks. ($$)

Do you wanna know who was a Master @ turning people out, or controlling them w/ Giving ??? It was Tony Soprano of The tv show The Sopranos. Tony was a GIVER, which made him a BOSS.....

Remember in the episode when Tony's daughter Maedow soccer team was winning, and the coach wanted to bail and skip town?? What did Tony do ??? He gave the coach a 50 inch TV. but the coach didn't wanna take it. But Tony forced him to take it. By the Coach RECIEVING what Tony gave him, he knew he had to SUBMIT to Tony.

Another case and point, when Tony took Maedow his daughter, her fiancé Finn, and his son A.J. out to dinner, and Finn went behind Tony's back to pay for the meal, and Tony got pissed at Finn. Tony knew that the one that GIVES or Pays is the Boss. And Tony told dude to keep his phucking money. This is why Carlito told the waiter to send the champagne back to Benny in the film Carlito's Way. If Carlito had accepted it, he would have been under Benny's thumb.

Pimps and Bosses are GIVERS. Pimps and bosses also put themselves in a position to GIVE. A lot of people think the U.S.A. is powerful based on their military, that's kinda true but not entirely true. The U.S. is also powerful because they lead the World in GIVING!!! No other country GIVES like America. This is why when natural disasters hit America, The American goverment refuses to accept aid from other countries. Because the U.S. doesn't want to be made to submitt to another country, but they will give other countries aid so that they will have influence in that country. "Boss" is a term that is used to liberally in our culture. You got cats that say they are bosses, but don't have any employees. Anybody w/ a job knows that a boss is the one who pays/gives. You cannot be a boss and never go into your pocket. If you never go into your pocket, you are merely a whore being pimped.

Bitches thats got some GAME, and if she is trying to hook you, will be that bitch to pick up the tab for everything. If that bitch does this all the time, she is the one that's in control. The boss is the GIVER. Y'all remember the song, "You all that I need to get by" by Method Man f. Mary J. Bilge. In this song Method was a whore, and the female whom he was singing about was the pimp. The part when he says:

"Back when I was nothing you made a brother feel like he was something, that's why I'm with you to this day boo no frontin' ". This nigga fell prey to the Law of G&R. When he kept receiving from the bitch he had the unction to give to the bitch. When Meth states: "I'm gone walk these dogs so we can live in a fat ass cribb w/ thousands of kids". This nigga had to.....let me repeat.... had to GIVE.

Bitches w/ no GAME think they are getting over when a square dude takes them out and he pays. But to them bitches let me say this. If you run into a Pimp that does this, he more than likely is giving to you, so you will give to him, but he won't be taking your pussy as a payment, he will be taking your mind for payment. "He That wins souls/ minds is wise". ~ King Solomon. So for all you naive females who wants a man to pay, if that cat knows what he is doing, he will be turning your ass out.

I remember that I used the Law Of G&R on a bitch and didn't realize what I was doing. I brought some phucking candy from her for her son. She said Mr. Gatez could you help my son out w/ a purchase? I said cool but you will owe me a favor, she said cool. A couple of weeks pass, I seen the bitch and called in a favor. I said I gotta get my car wash do you mind washing it? Now I'm kidding right, she said yeah I'll wash your car for you and the bitch did it exactly like I wanted. Giving turns people into slaves/ employees and turns the Giver into a boss.

This is what Heidi Fliess did, she found pretty girls and she gave to them, knowing full well that the bitches would come back for more, and after Heidi got those bitches use to receiving, she made those bitches jump through hoops to receive by selling some ass for her. Heidi Fliess recognized all of this GAME, by reading the "Giving Tree".

The tree was the PIMP, If you know about trees, they are isolated they can't come and go, they must remain in the same spot. Just like a pimp is isolated, he can't be wishy-washy, he must remain firm in his GAME.

Notice the boy who was never satisfied w/ what he got. That's a whore for you. Whores are never satisfied, their needs and wants constantly change.

Notice how even when the boy was older and a man, The book still referred to him as a boy. Cuz children always want shit and never give shit. And like a whore the boy even when he became a man got hooked on receiving.

I'm going to say this and I will be out. Homosexuality is a violation of the Law of G&R. Homosexuality turns men into "Receivers" sexually instead of Givers. Men where designed to give sexually. Look at the absurdity when bitch made niggaz say: " I want that bitch to GIVE me some pussy. Nigga reverse that shit.... And say Im going to give her some dick. This is how weak ass simp men put bitches on a pedestal. Because she "gives" pussy. But you need to "give" dick. Remember the one that "GIVES" is the boss.

The Law Of G&R......Either use it..... Or be used by It !!!!



The Rev/ Dr. Beasley Gatez

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 Post subject: Re: The Giving Tree
PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:56 pm 
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That's one fine ass post right there Flux.

A great little story and some classic Cialdini Law of Reciprocation shit! :twisted:

You can read it online for free here: http://www.slideshare.net/wicaksana/the ... ee-3293089

Video version too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TZCP6OqRlE

Personally I agree with Paradise's general maxim of a 25% reciprocation rate, depending of course on their performance.

Reminds me of this scene in The Mack when Goldie is talking to Slim about how he's knocked Diane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-gN4tlLyvc

(Skip to 3:44)
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If you never go into your pocket, you are merely a whore being pimped.
Not sure about that part though.


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 Post subject: Re: The Giving Tree
PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:14 am 
Voyager wrote:
Wonderful video, thank you!


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 Post subject: Re: The Giving Tree
PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:57 am 
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For some reason I felt quite another message from this text / video ...

Go figure. :geek:

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 Post subject: Re: The Giving Tree
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:27 am 
GoldenBoy wrote:
For some reason I felt quite another message from this text / video ...

Go figure. :geek:
Agreed. The person that wrote that text about the giving tree is a trick. :ugeek:

The boy made money, made a house, made a boat, and made a chair. Guess what the real moral is? The boy made the tree happy because he gave the tree what it NEEDED.

Flux, what wino or crackhead wrote this text?

This is why Rosebudd said teaching the game is like talking astrophysics to a wino. So many people confuse this shit.

This dude who wrote this has never had a woman pay him. He's just read a lot of books or something and tried to fact find.

Most books on the subject have misinformation too. Everyone thinks the phrase, "The game is to be sold not told," means you have to pay to learn. That's not what it means at all. :ugeek:

I'd be surprised if anyone, even on this forum, could say what that means in 20 words or less. A lot pimps don't even know what that means. :ugeek:

Edit: Yes, Flux, you can give without being a trick. However, you do it when the time and space are correct. The only damn nugget in that whole text was the candy situation. :geek:

Give a little. Receive a lot more.

Re-read the parable with the boy not NEEDING the tree and UNATTACHED to the tree.

That whole shit about the boy and his wants is fake trick shit that dude wants you to think. The boy had NEEDS. The boy NEEDED money, NEEDED a house, NEEDED a boat, and WANTED a place to sit. How's that for a mind fuck.

Now place the NEEDS and ATTACHMENT on the tree.

The parable is that you don't want to be tree unless your sense of fair exchange is derived from giving monetary value to achieve happiness. It is a trick's tale to not be a trick. It is not a pimp tale. This is why the message is so convoluted. The tree destroyed itself in the process of SEEKING its happiness.


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 Post subject: Re: The Giving Tree
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:32 pm 
GoldenBoy wrote:
For some reason I felt quite another message from this text / video ...

Go figure. :geek:
the tree is me and the boy is me and i see how much i cut off of my own tree so far.. :(


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 Post subject: Re: The Giving Tree
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:28 pm 
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Slim Titan wrote:

Flux, what wino or crackhead wrote this text?
The name is in the text unedited...If you wish to actually speak with him i can pm you the forum link, you should be able to find it though.

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 Post subject: Re: The Giving Tree
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:48 pm 
Flux wrote:
Slim Titan wrote:

Flux, what wino or crackhead wrote this text?
The name is in the text unedited...If you wish to actually speak with him i can pm you the forum link, you should be able to find it though.
No I don't wish to talk to that uninformed dude. This guy thinks Muddy waters got a lot of women from the conqueror root.

I think Grinus made a post in this section about muddy waters. It was his indifference and charismatic attitude that got him women.


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 Post subject: Re: The Giving Tree
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:45 pm 
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Agreed. The person that wrote that text about the giving tree is a trick. :ugeek:

The boy made money, made a house, made a boat, and made a chair. Guess what the real moral is? The boy made the tree happy because he gave the tree what it NEEDED.

Flux, what wino or crackhead wrote this text?

This is why Rosebudd said teaching the game is like talking astrophysics to a wino. So many people confuse this shit.

This dude who wrote this has never had a woman pay him. He's just read a lot of books or something and tried to fact find.

Most books on the subject have misinformation too. Everyone thinks the phrase, "The game is to be sold not told," means you have to pay to learn. That's not what it means at all. :ugeek:

I'd be surprised if anyone, even on this forum, could say what that means in 20 words or less. A lot pimps don't even know what that means. :ugeek:

Edit: Yes, Flux, you can give without being a trick. However, you do it when the time and space are correct. The only damn nugget in that whole text was the candy situation. :geek:

Give a little. Receive a lot more.

Re-read the parable with the boy not NEEDING the tree and UNATTACHED to the tree.

That whole shit about the boy and his wants is fake trick shit that dude wants you to think. The boy had NEEDS. The boy NEEDED money, NEEDED a house, NEEDED a boat, and WANTED a place to sit. How's that for a mind fuck.

Now place the NEEDS and ATTACHMENT on the tree.

The parable is that you don't want to be tree unless your sense of fair exchange is derived from giving monetary value to achieve happiness. It is a trick's tale to not be a trick. It is not a pimp tale. This is why the message is so convoluted. The tree destroyed itself in the process of SEEKING its happiness.
Holy shit I did not see any of this before. :!:

I re-read the text again with the above perspective ... I will now humbly reapply for forum membership!!! :shock:

This place is the best :ugeek:


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 Post subject: Re: The Giving Tree
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:34 am 
I do stand corrected. There is at least one person on the forum, a well respected member, who gave a valid response to what the phrase "The game is to be sold not told" means. :D

They even helped me rethink my understanding of it in 12 words for good measure.


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 Post subject: Re: The Giving Tree
PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:38 am 
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Slim Titan wrote:
I do stand corrected. There is at least one person on the forum, a well respected member, who gave a valid response to what the phrase "The game is to be sold not told" means. :D

They even helped me rethink my understanding of it in 12 words for good measure.
Please, Oh respected member, Oh mighty one, knower of all good things in life, charmer of snakes (and women), give the explanation, either here, or by pm <- Using praise

I'd love to know the answer to that but Slim doesn't appear to want to answer me, so tell me ... I've lost twice already ... I'm too curious <- Using radical honesty.

Please help a poor loose lamb learning the way so he can walk the talk. <- Using pity

That's all, you get the gist. :ugeek:

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 Post subject: Re: The Giving Tree
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:49 am 
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Noone ?

Maybe it's too simple for me to see ?

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 Post subject: Re: The Giving Tree
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:13 pm 
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GoldenBoy wrote:
Noone ?

Maybe it's too simple for me to see ?
Maybe you are too focused on the finger to see the moon it points towards

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 Post subject: Re: The Giving Tree
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:49 pm 
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peregrinus wrote:
GoldenBoy wrote:
Noone ?

Maybe it's too simple for me to see ?
Maybe you are too focused on the finger to see the moon it points towards
Here were my two guesses in order :

First (pm sent to Slim) :
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The game is to be sold because you have to 'invest' (of yourself, time, ...).
Just being spoon-fed doesn't cut it, it's bottom-up learning.

Close ? (I would love to hear Kidd's (as I assume it's him) phrase though). :mrgreen:
Second :
Quote:
Then it's more like litterally :

Doesn't matter what women say they will do, only their results ($$$$) are important ?

Actions over words ?
But I indeed get stuck on the finger, because I assume this is self-explanatory but the two obvious answers were refuted (well only the first one, but he didn't answer at all my second guess) ...

I'm not even over-thinking it, coz except when I read the posts, I don't think about it (which may be the problem but whatever, I wanted to be spoon-fed on this one.)

Well, thanks anyways for answering ...

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