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Interesting to watch TED talk. I agree with half her advice - 20s are the perfect time to build social capital and make something of yourself. But the other half of her advice reeks powerfully of marquee value...

http://www.ted.com/talks/meg_jay_why_30 ... ew_20.html

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"The society gives you a map; I give you only freedom. The society gives you character, I give you only consciousness. The society teaches you to live a conformist life ... I give you an invitation to go on an adventure." - Osho

Too late for all this crap.


Game over.

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That's because it doesn't apply to women, you goofball.

It may make them feel better to think so, but it doesn't.

The part when she says she picked her hubby at 30 because he seemed like the only chair available to sit in? It's like she somehow stole my 'musical chairs' analogy wholesale.

For women, 20 is the new 20...30 might as well be the new 45.

For us? Hell, I just turned 40 sooooo...40 is the new 20.

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So... Happy brithday

now I know from where you got that avatar

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fufe is one grumpy cat

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

Pimposophy Revisited is now finally available on Amazon in all territories!

I had a good teacher

Guess who



(But yeah, I have grumpy cat as my wallpaper)

Happy BDay Kidd!! (somewhat belatedly).
Only women become old. Men become distinguished.

Then again, it seems that men don't become distinguished automatically either. I come across many, many men who have not aged well at all. Women may waste their lives by squandering their youth & beauty, but many men waste their lives by not growing.

Also, is it my imagination, or are girls losing their looks much more rapidly these days? Some balloon, some become gaunt; this always used to happen before, but i'm now seeing it happen to some of them before they even hit 24. Or maybe i'm just seeing more shit than I used to (been happening lately).

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"I will not grow in the light, until I pass through the darkest caverns of my heart..."

"Temet Nosce"

I really like this post, roark. I'm glad someone has mentioned it.

That's not age - that's health.
Not sure what you mean by this, care to elaborate?

No. Not your imagination whatsoever. But again, this is a health issue. A choice issue. A lifestyle issue. Just like the men you observed.

It has almost nothing to do with passage of time or greater rate devolution. But it is very easy to think so given the rate at which it appears to be happening. But it can only ever happen that way...! How how divine is that?

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It is not your imagination.

It is nothing to do with age, or time, as Scarf mentions.

The outer does reflect the inner.

Just ponder why their outer deteriorates so rapidly nowadays compared to times gone past?

You already know the answers

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In building a statue, a sculptor doesn't keep adding clay to his subject.He keeps chiseling away at the inessentials until the truth of its creation is revealed without obstructions. Perfection is not when there is no more to add,but no more to take away.

Gotcha. As civilisation progresses, we are more & more encouraged to focus on the outer world, to the exclusion of the inner. The inner therefore deteriorates & shrivels (due to neglect - like Roger's conscience for any 'American Dad' fans out there ) more rapidly with every new generation. As a matter of fact, the 'gaunt' ones I described - their outer reflects how I envisage their inner to be. Then again, the 'bloaters' are probably also an accurate representation of their inner world.

@ Scarf: Just that MANY women waste their youth & looks on ego tripping ("Look at how many guys I can manipulate! Yipee!") without cultivating any real qualities like intelligence or depth - or the personality to bring the best out of the people they interact with. And they NEVER end up with a partner that can satisfy them - not to mention the fact that true satisfaction comes from within. And i'll wager that even with all the money they can fleece from men through the divorce courts, they can't shake the feeling, deeply buried as it may be, that they are fucking losers.

And tied to what 'Grinus said, the stony 'fronting face' seems to stick after a while - many women who I see jogging, at the mall, etc. are young and pretty, but the look of misery or contempt on their faces makes them deeply unattractive to me. Inside showing up on the outside again. When they get old they're gonna be ugly as fuck . Have actually seen the end product of this as well, and it ain't pretty......

I'm now in a state where I feel a kind of compassion for them. Nothing that lowers my mood or anything - it's actually a nice feeling in and of itself. But nothing I can do or say can help them.

In contrast, I know one woman who seems to have escaped this trap, and is EXTREMELY sexually appealing despite being in her early 50's with wrinkles. The irony is that chatting with her has revealed that she doesn't seem to care that she's single, likes doing things by herself (her own best friend), and seeks solitude on a regular basis. Sound familiar?

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"I will not grow in the light, until I pass through the darkest caverns of my heart..."

"Temet Nosce"

and this is if what would happened if they ever realized it:

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Laying on the floor in a pool of blood and cum
My demons lay beside as I kiss them one by one
Then on that day I met a force that nothing will compare
I was born the son of evil when I fuck the devil there!

you are saying that with the assumption as if they don't know.
women know when they have/or are about to "hit" the wall. that's why they know when they have a sucker, they know a Man in his rightful mind wouldn't really give them the time of day. they usually start pushing for "relationship upgrades" at this moment.

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"I'd rather have no bitch than a half a bitch" Iceberg Slim

Look at the age of the girl in the photo I posted.

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Laying on the floor in a pool of blood and cum
My demons lay beside as I kiss them one by one
Then on that day I met a force that nothing will compare
I was born the son of evil when I fuck the devil there!

Good advice, but obviously not really directed at us.

If all it takes if some soothing words telling you to waste time and energy not setting yourself up to rob you of your ambition then that's just natural selection at work.

All of this is very amusing to me, because they're over looking the fact that they destroyed their way of escaping M value

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"The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man. Even so, who can know him."

Indeed

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

Pimposophy Revisited is now finally available on Amazon in all territories!

Absolutely. Not to be too self-congratulatory, but once you know about Marquee Value, and the social matrix in general, you can see right through this kind of advice and look at the forces going on underneath.

She is giving advice to women re: don't wait until Marquee Value catches up to you to get married, and to men re: don't wait until Marquee Value is in your favor - settle now while you are at a disadvantage. This is the bad advice she gives.

She's also giving advice to both men and women (but I think mostly to men) to make something of yourself in your 20s - don't wait until you're 30 to start building. This is the good advice she gives.

It really plays right into Marquee Value, and mirrors the advice given on this forum. Make something of yourself, work on yourself, deal with older women who's value has declined while you're building yourself up, and then when Marquee Value hits, you're perfectly set up.

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"The society gives you a map; I give you only freedom. The society gives you character, I give you only consciousness. The society teaches you to live a conformist life ... I give you an invitation to go on an adventure." - Osho

Yup

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The honey doesn't chase the bee.

A wise man once said "I find that a duck's opinion of me is influenced by whether or not I have bread."

Took the words straight out of my mouth Meraki. Or as she put it- "identity capital". Another thing I've noticed about women my age (early twenties), or at least some of them, is that they are so dependent. It's like sometimes you can see through their whole act of trying to look sex and you just see their inner child, fearful of being alone. I have my own insecurities to deal with. Don't need more baggage on my back. Besides, a girl who can look after herself and "independent" so to speak are far more attractive in my opinion.

I noticed that I was almost brainwashed into focusing on finding the "one" in my early twenties. Fuck! Back to the drawing board for me.