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Yesterday I had a coffee meeting/date; with a muslim girl I met the day before. I met her after me sitting next to her when she was studing somewhere; and we had a small (10 minutes orso) conversation.

At the meeting/date she showed up, with a girlfriend. It was the first time I had that happen.
I was thinking about leaving right away because I though it is not easy getting to know someone in a group setting. But I decided to go to the meeting.
We went to drink somewhere, and the grilfriend also ordered food. I left after like 30 minutes when I was finished with my drink, the girls appeared puzzled when I said I was going to leave. I guess they didn't expect that, .

I got an text messge from the girl, 10 minutes afte I left. In which she thanked me and appologized for the inconvinience.
I didn't reply, because. I was not happy/mad about her bringing the gf around, also I'm not sure about what this muslim chick wants and alows herself to do sex wise and with her religious believes (I tried to figure it out during the meeting, and asked her about her religious rules. But she didn't seem to want to answer them, but that might also be because of the group setting).

I'm unsure about if I will reply to her, and try to persue another meeting.
But my first experience with the girl + a grilfriend showing up on a date, it's not as good as just 1-on-1. Because I found; harder to be personal with each other, starting to get touchy with her feels more weird.

Maybe it continous

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No reason to leave, you shouldn't "need" anything from her. It's not that weird that she showed up with a chick friend, it was for the safety factor, you don't know her past or some of the things that may have happened to her, etc... BUT she should have told you she was bringing her.

I'd text her back and be polite, as she was...but let her make the next move for another get together.

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A wise man once said "I find that a duck's opinion of me is influenced by whether or not I have bread."

Beforehand, I was hopeing and would prefer the happening for some sexytimes. Oh, I didn't know it wasn't that uncommon; Since I had never had that happen before I see I agree. Thanks 4 your suggestion + input.

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Why... what has she done to deserve it?
What if she's a walking petri dish? Wayyy too many questions before you even think about putting the p in the v




Well I wouldn't say it's a common thing, depending on the city, etc... New york for example girls have their gaurd way fucking up when they're out. But again, she should have told you she was bringing her.

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The honey doesn't chase the bee.

A wise man once said "I find that a duck's opinion of me is influenced by whether or not I have bread."

That's true. But it's possible with 2 girls. If they trust each other and you give them enough space.. I've done this in group of 4 people (3 girls and me) and it went well, as far as going personal and getting to know each other goes, I didn't want sex with any
Does it ? Why so.. And why don't you touch her friend too, it's normal if you don't overuse it.. I actually think if girls don't normally touch you by themselves, there's something wrong

You guys are totally going in the wrong direction with this.

scarface, you fucked up the moment you plopped your ass down next to her to so called 'meet her' while she was studing, then forced a convo for 10 minutes. She showed up more out of sympathy for how hard you were trying than actual attraction, hence why she brought her friend.

Stop hunting and start fishing, doofus.

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One of my favourite analogies.

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The honey doesn't chase the bee.

A wise man once said "I find that a duck's opinion of me is influenced by whether or not I have bread."

If I was in that situation and the gf was hot it would be awesome. Was she hot lol?

Interesting post. The muslim girl should be there just to see you. Her entire focus was not on you, hence the friend. You should be the sole reason she sees you not out of convenience, sympathy, or chance.

The Kidd really put it in better words than I can.

Yes the gf was cute, for sure cuter/hotter then the girl I had the appointment with. Which I found kinda strange/bad sign also, since I thought to myself that proabably most of the time chicks would try to bring someone along that is less hot so to look better themselfes, well at least if they want to try to make an impression.

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I had the experience of a girl bringing her friend along (terrible date should have dumped her on it!) but it was just because I was meeting her off the internet and she wanted protection (her friend was a lot bigger and stronger than me:P)

But I agree with what was said, the thing that I can advise about is never let something like religion get in the way, the only thing religion is used is to justify things. Instincts win over logic all the time (see Triune Brain theory). Thats why you get so many scandals with male priests.

Thats why you can see an old woman leave a church and turn her nose up at the beggar nearby.
Or how a religion based on peace and love can be used to justify murder.

If she says "no sex before marriage" or something like that, I bet its a bluff. You hear about the cliche of catholic school girls getting pregnant all of the time. The only reason it doesn't happen in Muslim countries is because of the laws and fear. Frea being intuitive.

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Don't be sexist, bitches hate that.

She brought another girl for you to play with.

Why would this be a problem?

More fun, more entertainment, more conversational topics.

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I was gonna say this, but I've been called a whore enough this week

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The honey doesn't chase the bee.

A wise man once said "I find that a duck's opinion of me is influenced by whether or not I have bread."

Truth be told, getting up and leaving was the best thing you coulda done. Then you had a ball stealing opportunity when she apologized unprovoked. There are so many ways to play this game.

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Kidd, please elaborate on the way you steal the ball. The mindset or specifics words or whatever. I saw that section listed on the table of contents in the kidd's corner but I didn't see the any article.

to make small update.
Called her, and we met up yesterday for some sightseeing activities during the daytime. Nothing much sexual was going on there and physical contact seemed a bit off (especially the goodbye kissing, not mutual/synchrone enough), maybe I'll invite her to meet up again. Since I have the 3 strikes rule that would be the last time (for romantic purpose) then, so I will probably construct this last meetup entirely towards romantic encounter (read, inviting her to come to my place, or meet up at late evening).
If a future meeting happens, I'll give update for the noisy people.

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I think your too invested in the outcome, and your are chasing her not giving her the space necessary for her to fill it

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It's already over, you made it even worse by pushing it.

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"Simply put, you being in her life is a BLESSING. Her wronging you in any way is her own self-inflicted CURSE, and if she does wrong you, then let the punishment fit the crime. Her life will absolutely SUCK without you."

I could tell you how to turn this around, but that is Skype territory. What's it worth to ya?

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

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Thanks 4 replies
@Alchemist and @Resonance; I think you're both right. To much me going forward, instead off her coming to me.
@The Kidd!!; thanks 4 the offer, but I'm not interested in this situation to want to try or to take effort to change it around.

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