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 Post subject: Layers to meditation
PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2021 1:22 am 
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I've had this idea about meditation and digging deeper that I wanted to share as I test it out on a more consistent basis.

There's layers to meditation:

Layer 0 - just being able to sit still
Layer 1 - thoughts start to slow down
Layer 2 - noticing sensations
Layer 3 - feeling space
Layer 4 - being able to fly (bring things up without effecting them)

I'm focused on the last layer. Being able to bring something up and going deeper into it without trying to change it.

In the past, I tried to skip levels (in a lot of things actually :oops: ) and would get really frustrated and quit prematurely. This time around I noticed that there's steps to this that I can build on. And since I'm more serious this time around, I'm not in a rush.

So instead of trying to dig deep right away and maybe see why I need others approval so much for example. I'm building on the layers to give myself enough space to reflect on whatever it is I'm thinking about.

I need to be able to walk before I can run.

The message of befriending my demons is coming to mind right now. Like this is what that's about. If I'm always running around without space. How can I even get to the space to befriend my demons if I let alone can't even talk with them.

I wonder if this makes sense? A lot of it is grabbed from from the forum and my own experience. I noticed what I was doing wasn't working and didn't get me the results I want. So have to change it up.

Maybe it's more work now, but it'll be easier later on.

A lot of it is about observing and just letting it come naturally.


Here's some resources on the topic that come to mind right now from peregrinus here and TheKidd here.

Learn to accept.

 Post subject: Re: Layers to meditation
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2021 1:32 pm 
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I would put quote marks around the whole post :)
If I'm always running around without space. How can I even get to the space to befriend my demons

Reading the post made me want to point out this:
The five hindrances are:

Sensory desire : the particular type of wanting that seeks for happiness through the five senses of sight, sound, smell, taste and physical feeling.

Ill-will : all kinds of thought related to wanting to reject; feelings of hostility, resentment, hatred and bitterness.

Sloth-and-torpor : heaviness of body and dullness of mind which drag one down into disabling inertia and thick depression.

Restlessness-and-worry : the inability to calm the mind.

Doubt : lack of conviction or trust

In building a statue, a sculptor doesn't keep adding clay to his subject.He keeps chiseling away at the inessentials until the truth of its creation is revealed without obstructions. Perfection is not when there is no more to add,but no more to take away.

 Post subject: Re: Layers to meditation
PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:51 am 

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