Natural Freedom

Forum for the natural awakening and self-realization of men
It is currently Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:57 pm

All times are UTC+01:00




Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:04 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:02 am
Posts: 255
Karen Straughan takes on Jordan Peterson. Gotta love this woman!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faeT4fIFAcg


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:46 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:27 pm
Posts: 413
To be fair, he did change his hard stance after this.

_________________
1ThewholeWorldbesearchinforthosewho'dbesearchinforthemselves.

3Hearingstoriesabouttheirgrandparents,madethesonsintogreatsons.Allgreatheroesadoredheroeswhotheyregardedas 13xGreater thanthemselves-theGreatBeingsoftheFuturesPast-totheirlastbreath. :geek:


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:53 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:55 pm
Posts: 3428
Location: Canada
Wasn't he harsh on MGTOW?

I think Peterson is intentionally dishonest in a lot of instances. If you observe him closely, you can see that he's never solved his own issues. I would compare him to Rion Williams if any of you were around on the forum back in the old days.

He tweeted that Judge Kavanagh should step down if appointed. You've got feminism, porn, and endless hedonism getting almost all young men completely lost and defeated. Then you've got Peterson picking off any of the stragglers looking for answers. Despicable. He compromised his one true saying, that you should speak the truth to power and not bow to the mob. He did it because he was being scouted by CAA (acting agency) and wants more than the million dollars a month he is currently getting.

But to be fair I happen to agree with his stance on MGTOW. Choosing to be married and having kids is a valid choice, but running from the fight is cowardly.

_________________
"The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man. Even so, who can know him."


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:34 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:27 pm
Posts: 413
Altair wrote: *
Wasn't he harsh on MGTOW?
I meant: He did soften his hard stance... gave a sort of an apology.

He was asked: do you have any regrets (or something).
Quote:
I think Peterson is intentionally dishonest in a lot of instances....
All the other stuff... gotta admit, I haven't looked into him closely enough to have a solid view-point.

_________________
1ThewholeWorldbesearchinforthosewho'dbesearchinforthemselves.

3Hearingstoriesabouttheirgrandparents,madethesonsintogreatsons.Allgreatheroesadoredheroeswhotheyregardedas 13xGreater thanthemselves-theGreatBeingsoftheFuturesPast-totheirlastbreath. :geek:


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:21 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:08 pm
Posts: 3340
Location: UK
https://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtop ... 643#p46643
<edited> wrote:
Both of you make valuable points..

What works for us (me, you) does not necessarily work for others. What works for others does not necessarily work for us.

Some parts may work for you, some may not, some may clash with you. It does not have to be considered as a whole

Part of the take what is useful and discard what is not, is determining what is useful or what works for me. Not anyone else, me.

Why I do something and what benefits doing it gives me is part of that process.
I have found if you look hard enough you can find faults in any and all teachers. It is more useful to see what they have to teach YOU and how it applies to you, rather than trying to find fault with them. Discard what is not applicable or useful.

Would you discard a teacher with some faults, and their knowledge in other areas, or would you listen to see if there are some valid points and then consider the whole.

_________________
In building a statue, a sculptor doesn't keep adding clay to his subject.He keeps chiseling away at the inessentials until the truth of its creation is revealed without obstructions. Perfection is not when there is no more to add,but no more to take away.


Top
   
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:47 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:00 pm
Posts: 1674
peregrinus wrote: *
https://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtop ... 643#p46643
<edited> wrote:
Both of you make valuable points..

What works for us (me, you) does not necessarily work for others. What works for others does not necessarily work for us.

Some parts may work for you, some may not, some may clash with you. It does not have to be considered as a whole

Part of the take what is useful and discard what is not, is determining what is useful or what works for me. Not anyone else, me.

Why I do something and what benefits doing it gives me is part of that process.
I have found if you look hard enough you can find faults in any and all teachers. It is more useful to see what they have to teach YOU and how it applies to you, rather than trying to find fault with them. Discard what is not applicable or useful.

Would you discard a teacher with some faults, and their knowledge in other areas, or would you listen to see if there are some valid points and then consider the whole.
This is simple. ^^
Bruce Lee — 'Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own.'

_________________
"The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn."
Alvin Toffler


Top
   
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:16 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:51 pm
Posts: 2046
Location: Laniakea Supercluster
李小龍 was misquoted a lot.
What he meant was simplify. More accurately; don't escape the process.

_________________
♫♫♩♫‿◦


Top
   
PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:42 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:27 pm
Posts: 413
This is actually a part of the Process, keep marching Braather.

Stage 1:
Finding faults in others.
" [I/me] will change the World"

G ----->

Stage 3:
Finding faults in oneself. "I am Not Kind, and no one else is Terrible".
"O'h give me this Blessing... take away this [I/me] & let "me" [now: YOU] Serve the Creation"

G <-----

You will get there, see you on the other side :)

_________________
1ThewholeWorldbesearchinforthosewho'dbesearchinforthemselves.

3Hearingstoriesabouttheirgrandparents,madethesonsintogreatsons.Allgreatheroesadoredheroeswhotheyregardedas 13xGreater thanthemselves-theGreatBeingsoftheFuturesPast-totheirlastbreath. :geek:


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 

All times are UTC+01:00


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 12 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to: 

cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited