GB: Very apt post, thank you for reminding me of that. It was a good thing you did when you saved those posts. Loving the signature
Altair wrote: * | Sat May 12, 2018 3:58 am |
I feel like you would have thought of this already so I am probably missing something.
Carry on Altair, the different view is helping, together with the prods.
I am applying the pry bar to a different corner.
I view every action as window dressing to the goal of getting the best genes possible.
Agreed
Altair wrote: * | Sat May 12, 2018 3:58 am |
maximize security but not through commitment to males but by navigating the female hierarchy. In other words maybe it's the same as when men wear suits in the workplace, it says I am playing the same game as you and by the same rules.
This, oh so this.
One of my neighbours had her boiler break down on her, this is one who I had previously asked if she had a decent plumber and she replied no, truthfully. The next morning a guy turned up and fixed her boiler, when I asked her about it, she explained that she had mentioned it to someone in her group and they did the rest, the guy phoned her up to arrange the appointment and done.
Pretty much all of the female groups I have been in contact with have a selection of workmen to cover all trades on call, somewhere within the group. Most times my best option is to go ask the female neighbour who is in the highest local group if they have anyone, they will already have been vetted, they will be reliable (else they would have been dropped) and easily contactable. Do this enough and they will put you directly in contact with the person who 'manages' that tradesman in the group.
I often find these tradesmen do not advertise, as they get enough work from the group(s) not to have to, they also want to do a better job, as it is a recommend and they are usually cheaper (not crap cheap, good cheaper).
The female groups also trade and share tradesmen, in return for other things (status changes, collaborations etc)
I have had a few occasions where I have seperately called up the tradesman in question to be told they are too busy etc and there is a wait.. only to have the same person recommended to me by the group and magically they are available all of a sudden
They very much trade and exchange access to value in return for status changes within the group and across groups.
Altair wrote: * | Sat May 12, 2018 3:58 am |
I think that the original evolutionary conditions lead them to consolidate maximum value for safety
and acquire the best genes possible by whatever means necessary.
I think there is some confusion here, as males tend to confuse the value/security thing and the gene hunt and mix them together. I am thinking more and more they are totally seperate things.
Any seeming join between the two was brought about by society and its rules and boundaries over the years, not that it stuck, it just looked like it did from certain angles. In a sense we are now seeing the unravelling of that.
The problem was the females that stepped outside the rules were kept in check by the rest of the females, if we have to do this, so do you. That is not the case anymore as the rules are going/gone. Crab bucket mentality.
Altair wrote: * | Sat May 12, 2018 3:58 am |
In other words maybe it's the same as when men wear suits in the workplace, it says I am playing the same game as you and by the same rules.
Exactly.
Your example with the groups in school is very appropriate and thank you for posting that.
I would say that they have sorted themselves in terms of value, attractiveness being the most outward sign of that, possibly the most important in relation to relating to males.
As you noted, they are very careful to not give you more value than you think you are worth, also so they do not get less than they think they are worth.
Hence they start testing with middle value, to see if you bite (I could argue they started lower than you think they did). Is that where you think you sit?
Then when that fails, they gradually move up the scale, each time the whole group is learning from the interactions.
So, they have made an initial guesstimate as to where you think you are.. They they send someone who they think matches that, to see if they are correct. The way that interaction goes tells them if they aimed too high, too low or about right. It also gives them a lot of feedback.
As you saw, those at the top did not put themselves on the line, they threw the sacrificial lambs under the truck first. Yet they learnt as much from the interactions as those who were in front of you did.
It was not about any one girl, it was all about figuring out where you think you stand and learning how they can handle you.
If they already knew where you stand, if they had already assesed you, they would not have to go through this dance.
Altair wrote: * | Sat May 12, 2018 3:58 am |
The commonality behind all of their movements is that they immediately try to press me for commitment that they've done nothing to deserve
This I see as them asking you 'is this enough? is this enough to get you to offer your commitment?', a way of assessing where you think your value lies on the scale.
Not to say they want it, or would take it, are you willing to offer it and how much value do you expect in return?
They are not seeking the commitment, they are seeing at what point you will offer it.
The way society, the rules, the boundaries have been put together and the way males thought/think and have been conditioned, I think males put way too much on commitment (on both sides), the females know this and have worked out how to utilise that.
I am thinking they are using the males willingness to offer commitment as a measure of his own internal value.
Altair wrote: * | Sat May 12, 2018 3:58 am |
The thing is that even the not as attractive ones stick to their guns on this.
Yep.
As you notice, they cannot decide themselves where your value lies, else it would have been worked out on that first meeting of the middle value female who was fed to the lion. So they have to keep trying to get more of a handle on you.
Purely observing you did not work either, they had to interact with you. So they did, or their representative(s) did.
This will continue until they are happy they have you in a box somewhere with a label on it.
Altair wrote: * | Sat May 12, 2018 3:58 am |
The thing is that I feel like she puts herself under immense pressure to make her life perfect, and it doesn't interest me that much..
She will feel this, the others will feel it also.
She will not know why she feels this, she will feel it.
Altair wrote: * | Sat May 12, 2018 3:58 am |
I also find the complicity of males in this charade disheartening. I really believe that we will pay a price we cannot even imagine for their weakness.
I feel we are starting to see that, I am curious and fearful of where it will lead.
Altair wrote: * | Sat May 12, 2018 3:58 am |
It shouldn't be this easy to be in the top 10%.
The sad thing is, it is.