Ok guys I'm back from my short vacation in Thailand (I was in Bangkok and Pattaya).
Besides going on vacation I wanted to check the reality over there and see if what we have been told about Thai women is true or not. This might be a long post but bare with me to the end cause there are some myths we have been told that are not true but some things are true that's why you have to read all of my post.
Ok now
whenever I put something in Quotes it means that it is something we heard on Realm, 'Natural game seminar' or ARD.
A few concepts for the guys who are not familier with everything:
'Natural women' - women that are feminine, have a good heart and are nice, warm and sweet.
'Shakti' - beautiful and warm feminine energy
'Palmy' - a singer from Thailand who is also a natural woman and has strong 'Shakti' energy.
Ok so during my vacation I did some experiments and talked to a few local people (men and women). It was not easy to find Thai men who speak good enough English but I did manage to find a few and talk to them. So here we go:
Bangkok:
When you show up in Thailand you will have many options to meet women cause Thai women are very friendly (unlike western women who are cold and closed off)
I found that to be
Not true at all. A day before my flight someone told me that people who go to Thailand are using the internet to meet\know the women ahead of time. He told me:
'even if you are Tom Cruise women will not date you if you try to talk to them on the street because they don't want the locals to think they are hookers'. Since this trip was a last minute thing I didn't have time to go on the internet and meet women ahead of time.
So I walked in the streets of Bangkok and tried to talk to women on the street, the mall, coffe shops. I asked a few of them out and: I got rejected......
Now my mindset was not: 'I'm looking to get laid'. I just wanted to be friendly, talk to these women and learn about their culture.
It could be that they are suspicious (like the guy told me) because a lot of western men come to Thailand just to get laid however, we were taught that
these women can feel your energy and intentions
and since my intention was not to bed them I don't think that should have made them afraid to talk to me.....
Funny thing was: I met a few women from western Europe who were more friendly and warm than most Thai women I saw in Bangkok. It was more easy to talk to them and make friends with them (and I did).
Women in Thailand will open up their Shakti Energy and you almost don't have to do anything while western women will never do it
Using my new skills passed on to me by 'the Kidd' I did a lot of observations. What can I tell you: I saw very little 'happy Palmy faces' and 'happy Palmy energy'. A lot of the women seemed cold, closed off and not happy. Again, I saw western women who seemed much more happy to me.
western women are gold diggers, materialistic and Thai women are not
In Bangkok and in Pataya I asked three men and three women what is the deal with Thai women wanting men from the west and how common is that. I was told the following:
Thai women want love But money and social status is a big factor. Between 50%-60% of Thai women want a man from the west the other 50-40% date Thai men however:
they only date Thai men who have more money than them, make same money like them
But will not date Thai men who make less money then them.
The love of Thai women to western men is not only because of money but money and social status are a big factor.
One taxi driver that I talked to said to me: money comes first, love comes later (maybe it's not entirely true But this was said to me by a Thai man who lives and works in Bangkok).
Here is another thing to know:
In Bangkok and Pattaya there are big shopping malls with many stores, coffee shops and restaurant. They were built to provide jobs for Thai people and it's good cause Thai people need work. However the gaps between rich and poor people are huge in Thailand.
The people who are poor are really poor and most of them don't have money to shop in the malls or even have coffee at starbucks. I took a Thai girl for coffee at starbucks (in Pataya) one day and I asked her: why are you not drinking your coffee, don't you like it?
she said this is the first time she is in starbucks (she was 32).
Also, in Thailand (unlike in the west) there is no law that a Thai man has to pay child support if he leaves his wife. In Pataya you see a lot of women who have a child or two- their husband left them and now they work as hookers to support themselves and their family.
A lot of them are hoping to marry a western men with money that will help them take care of themselves and their family.
western women think you always have to pay for them, Thai women don't
This is very false.
When I date western women I don't always pay for them cause they can take care of themselves (and I give them equality
). Most Thai women are poor so you have to get the bill when you take them out. In Thailand everything is cheap compared to the west so when I took someone for coffee and cake it was not a problem- however if I was a Thai man and poor- that would be a problem.
western women are manipulative, Thai women are not
not true. I think Thai women can be even more manipulative then wetsern women.
At least with western women you can 'know your enemy'. Western women that are gold diggers and bitches are not really good in hiding their agenda. Thai women and esp. the bar girls in Pataya can be so sweet, feminine, nice- if you are not smart they can make you beleive they really love you just to get your money or find a way out of their country.
Some Thai women are willing to settle with wetsern men that are not rich only so they can get out of Thailand and work in Europe or the USA (when they work abroad they make much more money than in Thailand).
In Thailand the avrage salary is between 7000-10,000 BAT a month -which is around 225-322$$. Some people don't even make 7000 Bat a month but even the ones who get to 7000-10,000 BAT still don't have it easy. After they pay for a room, food, etc... they don't have spare money left.
more about Dating:
In Pataya at night when you walk on the beach area you see many bar girls who smile and act sweet like Palmy. But it's a part of the business (they are hookers) and no man will take them or pay them if they act cold and closed off. I met a French dude who lives in Paris who told me: I hate French women cause they are ice cold, closed off and never smile like these Thai women. I told him: 'Dude, this is a part of the business here. They don't smile and act like Palmy becuase they like you or me, they are just doing their job. If a hooker acted cold and bitchy no one would go with her'. For some reason the French dude didn't want to listen to me and ignored what I said.
When I approached a few women in Pataya which were not hookers and asked them out - they sure I had a girlfriend or that I was married. No one beleived me I was single
At the malls and shops in Pataya women will smile and be sweet to you when you come to buy something. They have a very high level of service because Thailand's economy is based mostely on tourism. But when I observed the Thai women while I was outside the shops I didn't see much 'happy Palmy energy' or happy faces. (this is due to the power of observations I learned from 'The Kidd' that enables you to see beyond the illusion).
Media in Thailand:
I have watched some Thai TV. I saw that in TV shows and commercials women display sweet and feminine attributes - not like women we see on western TV who act like men or like they are better than men. However, there are still a lot of commercials about makeup, mobile phones, restaurants, etc....
On TV shows women also display natural character and don't act like bitches or like the women on 'sex and the city' or 'gossip girl'. But you always see signs of social status like big houses, fancy cars, etc....
I think social status symbols on Thai TV are the same like in the western TV the only difference is: over there it is wrapped and combined with feminine energy while in the west it is wrapped and combined with women who display more masculine energy.
In a way I think it's just as dangerous (or even more). Because women in Thailand think that being feminine means you need all those things while in the west women who want to be feminine will not identify with masculine women on commercials and TV shows.
Ok to wrap this up: I think that in Thailand there is a social matrix only a different kind or version of it than what we have here in the west). But wait let me tell you of a few good things I saw:
I have met some great women from South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan and the Philippines that were very sweet, feminine, warm and open. I had a very easy time talking to them and making friends with them. Their Shakti energy was just awesome (something I don't see often in here).
Now these girls who came to Thailand for a vacation are not poor. South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong and Taiwan are capitalistic countries and yet these women were much more sweet and happy then the Thai women I met. Also very warm and friendly
I met a few very sweet and nice girls from Poland, Belgium and a very nice girl from the UK.
Most women from Europe that I saw were staying in guest houses like the one I was staying (which is around 15$ a night). So if all western women are spoiled and gold diggers how come so many of them are staying in cheap guest houses (guest house is like a cheap hotel).
Same for the women who came from South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong and Taiwan- most of then I saw in guest houses so despite of those Asian countries being capitalistic you still see those women staying in cheap guest houses and not expensive hotels.
Now I spoke here in generalization. Of coruse there are some Thai women who are feminine, sweet and are not after money. But the women of high quality in Thailand will not jump into your bed. You have to date them for a while and show them you are serious about them.
Bar girls or women of low qualilty who jump into your bed easily are not after your energy but your money!!
I got 'some action' over there but I know it was not my energy who was at play
Now, the women of high quality in Thailand and I think the same goes for: South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong and Taiwan want to date good men. But I beleive social status will always be a part of the package.
It's not just Energy
as we have been told.
I don't know how materialistic women from South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong and Taiwan are since I never dated them. But money and social status are a part of the world.
The difference is: women from the west and from rich Asian countries can take care of themselves and are not as poor as most Thai women so I think they will look more at your personality then how much money you have. But I also don't think they will go with a poor man unless they are poor and want to get out of their country.
I think that if you want to marry a feminine woman and can't find one in your area then looking abroad is not a bad idea. Looking at the world as your back yard is great. However, like 'the Kidd' said and I agree:
it has to come from the frame and mindset of: I can handle women in my country But I choose to date women abroad.
If one goes abroad to 'run away' from western women he might end up with a foreigner woman that will use him just to get out of her country Or she might change once he brings her to western soil (back to his country).
Dating Asian women or watching Palmy will heal all your inner core issues
Wrong!!
if you have problems with confidence or low self esteem- don't expect these Asian women to heal it. You have to do some inner core work and heal yourself. Otherwise again:
you might get used or end up with a nice woman that will change once you bring her to western soil.
Now I must say that in Europe there are so many beautiful women (women that will make Israeli women who think they are so hot-feel embarrassed
)
I also saw that women from rich Asian countries are so beautiful and feminine it's amazing.
The two girls I met from south Korea looked like two band members from the 'SNSD' group.
And for some strange reason I feel much more indifferent now than before my trip. I don't know why but it feels good