Natural Freedom

1. I just want some thoughts on this, does a man ever get to where he truly does not care at all about catching signs of interest? Or does it always feel good? Are those two things mutual?

2. I had been in a drought as far as observing interest from women, the day I said to my buddy "dude chics have just not been diggin' it lately, might be the hair" they started swooning like it rains.

Yea it's possible.. I do not give a fuck about it at all. I'm still attracted to them but I'm a man, that's how I'm built. But this obsession with women shit does not exist in my life anymore. So yeah, you can get to that point for sure.

I think it's possible. Like watching some random episode of a comedy series that caught your eye, and you're enjoy it. You perhaps like it to a degree, but you're not a mega fan of it and have bought all the series and know all the stupid quirks of each and every character, plus the story backwards.

One is enjoying it fully, the later is ATTACHMENT or being a fan.

So don't become a fanatic of catching signs of interest from woman, rather become just an observer.
Key word: Wants and needs.

And as I said in my posts, I'm still in a situation where; when I began to "fantazise/day dream" or told my friends about a girls that showed massive interest in me, and they saw it too, then the girls approached me and talked to me. Then I start to think about doing things together and shit (plans). So in the long run this fucks everything up due to expectations (Attachments). It actually starts with this becoming attached to the signs they gave me. When you really think about it, it's fucked up! I'm just specifing a warning.

Also, refer to the beautiful 'tree and birds' analogy by peregrinus.

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This is great! What did it for me was reading the manipulated man and Dick Masterson's site and book (Which tell the same shit), what I was so wanting to get before I now know doesn't exist and girls truly are fucked, so I could take em or leave um. I'm just as happy going for a walk in nature as I am getting my dick sucked.

Someone on here said they don't deal with females unless the girl is giving him blazing fucking jock'n signs, I'm the same way, I have better shit to do than always be observing and analyzing for minor signs of interest, because the prize at the end of it is just an annoying bitch anyway.

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The honey doesn't chase the bee.

A wise man once said "I find that a duck's opinion of me is influenced by whether or not I have bread."

at the moment I'm very indifferent (maybe too much). Sure I see women that I'd love to have sex with but I'm not looking too hard for signs or going out of my way. Maybe I'm too indifferent and I don't know if it's good or bad- but that's how it is right now.

it happened mostly after reading both of Esther's books (the manipulated man, The Polygamous Sex)
The great female con (book) by ANDEY RANDEAD

and watching the videos by 'Man Woman & Myth'-

http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopi ... =17&t=1661


Is it possible or is it just me?

I was surprised to see that Men in Japan are indifferent to women and women over there are much more feminine and attractive than in my country.
in the article they suggest stuff like: But maybe they just don't care for other reasons...

source:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... lemma.html

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

It's probably because they weren't raised on television shows like we are here in America. Well at least that could be one of the reasons.

Some of the hot women here in America are literally the most trashy bitches in the world. I know this one girl who is really hot and is always getting male attention had some guy she was with for a couple weeks cheat on her. So she went to this girls house with one of her friends and beat the shit out of this girl two on one, then went into this girls house and trashed her bedroom. She had charges pressed against her and everything. And this is a girl that gets lots of male attention, blonde hair, sexy face and body, but a total piece of trash human being.

I see plenty of hot girls like this where I live. I don't care how hot you are, I would never put up with a girl like that.

sniper said: at the moment I'm very indifferent (maybe too much). Sure I see women that I'd love to have sex with but I'm not looking too hard for signs or going out of my way. Maybe I'm too indifferent and I don't know if it's good or bad- but that's how it is right now.

The fact that you think ur too indifferent and wondering if its a good or bad thing shows ur not really indifferent and just using it as a technique to get interest or something thats why you said you dont know if its a good or bad thing, if you were truly indifferent you wouldnt care about being TOO indifferent or whether it was a good or bad thing or how women or people in general perceive your indifference, as brent says you wouldnt care that you dont care. let it go

theres nothing to get theres only things to give up

Valid point

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"The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man. Even so, who can know him."

Very good point, I want to know about point number 2 though. What is the deal with that, why did that not get an answer?

good point yoyoyo however this:
this is not accurate...

see, (almost) my whole life I always cared too much so now this new situation is kind of new to me.
Now, being the person that I am- who sometimes over analyzes stuff, looking of an explanation in the realm of logic often and too often sees things in black or white

I'm looking at this new reality and trying to assess it instead of just allowing it.

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

Yes Acceptance.

You had accepted it, let it go.

You were not 'expecting it to happen', hence were unattached to the outcome, as you were not expecting/looking for it/waiting for it. You let it go.

Hence they had the space to do what they did. So they did.

Simple.

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In building a statue, a sculptor doesn't keep adding clay to his subject.He keeps chiseling away at the inessentials until the truth of its creation is revealed without obstructions. Perfection is not when there is no more to add,but no more to take away.

So you think your making too big a deal about this?

in a way: yes. But it's something I have to work out in myself.

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

Gotcha. Just curious, in what ways do you try to work it out?

that's not something I can share at the moment

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

Once you get it down pat, it's no different than recognizing your favorite food in a buffet line up...doesn't mean you're gonna make a beeline for it...doesn't mean you are even going to eat it that day...just means that you are AWARE THAT IT'S THERE.

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

Pimposophy Revisited is now finally available on Amazon in all territories!

In the words of the Author, Bravo!
the second question's answer,answers the first question perfectly.

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"I'd rather have no bitch than a half a bitch" Iceberg Slim

As peregrinus said, once I accepted not getting any interest, almost instantly I had a night out that was just ridiculous - had 2 girls full on approach me and give me their numbers, another made the eyeing so obvious that I went up to her and eventually she gave me her number. And multiple other signs of interest from random women.

Does it mean I still have work to do considering I got home that night and felt pretty damn good about it? In my eyes, maybe a little bit, but then again during the period when I felt I wasn't getting any interest, it didn't affect me negatively or get me down at all.

awesome stephenp what u did is u let go(accepted, became ok with) your want to get interest therefore it started happening, good for you keep it going