And then we all learned that Rion's "success with women" was not a result of natural grounding after all!
This is
irrelevant, totally and utterly in my view. As is anyone elses success due to grounding.
Natural grounding is a process to achieve something. The aim in my view is not success, it is clearing away the dirt from your view of the world and women.
It is to free you from the societal conditioning and distorted images presented in the media.
To me, personally, that is the goal of grounding.
That WILL have side effects, women will notice that you are not viewing them the same way as everyone else. You will therefore seem to be behaving differently around them on a real core level, not from pretending but from a position of congruence and authenticity. This DOES peak their curiosity when around you, this WILL help your interactions.
On so many levels, it is quite mad. The gifts will only be given up to you once you stop seeking them.
We all have different levels of expectations and goals and it's normal. After all if we didn't want to get better with women we wouldn't be here trying all this stuff.
I agree that natural grounding in it's basic form is a tool to help you remember what a woman's true sexuality is and it does help the interactions with women and makes them much more comfortable. But if you hear Rion talk on 'natural game seminar' on what natural grounding is supposed to bring - you will see why people are developing high expectations from it.
NG is good but on it's own didn't bring most people the results or even half of the results that were promised.
Some people are only doing NG to get to cloud number 9 and forget that the goal of NG is to have women in reality.
I'm not saying we need to chase women all the time but some people in here are too caught up in the idea that we should not want women and that stuff Marcus said.
So if some guys want to be monks, only do NG for the rest of their life and keep repeating Marcus's stories that we 'should not want women'- go right ahead. To me that sounds ridiculous and I'm sure that it's not what most men really want.
Rion's success from Ng is relevant because if his success came from other things (like his party\playboy lifestyle) then he should be honest enough to say it and then people will know what to expect from NG. Just like Zan said that if you watch his program and apply the things he teaches, you will become a better man and have more choice with women.
Unlike Rion he never said stuff like: women will be falling all over you once you apply my teachings.