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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:40 pm 
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Hey Fellas
I am trying to create Master Plan for eliminating pornography for all men in this forum .My past experience with pornography is that it ruined my life , when i was in high school , it affected my grades and it ruined my chances of meeting beautiful woman in high school. Right now I am in University , I don't want any influence from pornography that can destroy my relationship with woman.

So i decided to create a post to gather people from this forum discuss a master plan that will help us eliminate the influence of pornography once and for all , I think its time for a change in our lives as men. A Master plan is essential to succeed in any area of a person's life. I am asking all the good members of this forum to team up with me so we can create the ultimate plan.

I been doing some research and i found there are three main ways to really eliminate pornography.

So here's the solution:
1) Stop the social conditioning.
* Stop watching porn/music videos/magazines/etc. Especially stop getting emotional about it (yes that means stop the masturbation/ejaculation).
* If you have problem with this idea: think about whether you prefer to masturbate on porn or have real sex.
* Think about the influence that porn has on you, the conditioning that occurs (check http://www.reuniting.info/ ).
* Get that porn is like alcohol. Nothing wrong with drinking 2-3 glasses vodka every saturday night. Obvious problems with drinking 2 bottles of goose each day of the week.

2) Sexual transmutation
* sexual transmutation to rechannel your sexual energy into achieving your goals.
* Very good website that describes what sexual transmutation is (http://www.sexualtransmutation.net)
* Short version: find yourself a purpose and get involved hardcore.

3) Natural grounding
* Recondition yourself to see women for what they really are, not a piece of meat to stick yours in.
* How? Natural grounding. Rion Williams has plenty of free info on topic.
* 20 minutes to an hour each day, be patient with it, the stronger your conditioning, the longer it will take to "get" it.

The result
* No more nervousness/neediness. Effortless. No need to remember lines, techniques & other crap. Consistency.
* Women showing way more interest. Since you're no longer being reactive, they can be reactive. Meaning: they'll pursue you.
* More quality & positive interactions. Since you're conditioning yourself to positive reactions from women through natural grounding.

Note: I got this imformation from a different guy

Also i want you guys to add more ideas so we can really create this master plan. Maybe if you guys give me more ideas i will create an ebook regarding this topic which can be distributed to all members in this website and the ebook can help you guys to keep off porn from your life.Please give me some more ideas so i can use your ideas into creating this ebook , with much love and respect

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:06 pm 
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I need 2 to 4 helpers in helping me create this master plan , i need 2 people to research and 2 people to edit, then at the end we can gather all our information together, i can create the ebook and distribute to all members. Please email me at swarupinkochi@gmail.com.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:56 pm 
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You can quit cold turkey. Here´s one about quitting porn habit. Pain/Pleasure Principle.

If you fall back to porn, destroy something that has a tremendous value to you, hold that integrity, you know you have to do it. Soon you will not want to do it. Destroy something really valuable every time you fall back into it, scratch the paint of the hood of your car, I DON´T CARE but hold that Integrity. If it hurts more than it rewards, you´re going to build a new belief and fast.

Soon you´re going to be pissed off, but hey, it works!

I PROMISE!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:03 am 
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Good luck trying to stay away from social conditioning dude, it's EVERYWHERE and you can't do anything about it, realistically there's no way you'll cut porn completely from your life, even if you get a website blocker and make it block porn then make a forgettable password, even then you'll have advertising and women dressing sexy in the street, how will you get away from that?.

I don't watch it anymore, I quit cold turkey after having realized the futility of jerking off to women whilst not being part of the action, when you think about it, the act is fucking ridiculous isn't it? that should be enough to make you stop.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:57 am 
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someone once showed me this site, I never had time to look deep into it but since you are a native English speaker you can read and check it out faster than me, have a look:

http://www.no-porn.com/index.php

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:26 am 
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I did a lot of NG and it changed what I value in women, however it didn't stop me from liking womens bodies, my eyes would always act on their own accord and relax on to the chest or ass. Which can be really irritating, according to my father it doesn't matter who they are!
I love Palmy, but I think part of me wants to see her naked... I dunno...

Ng didn't stop me from wanting to see women naked. I don't think anything can, the problem seems to be how porn is so easily accessible. Might be it.

My addiction went because I find porn disgusting, also I don't have easy access to the internet.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:25 pm 
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Tits & Asses & Bodies are Energy. But find the pure Yin, as well. I don´t care, I´m on solid food, not breastfed anymore...

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:56 am 
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These are the steps I took to eliminate the risk of viewing it.

Find software to block 'pornography' category off your computer and create an e-mail just for this, I suggest Yahoo because it has the option to not create an alternative e-mail account (in case you forget your password).

http://www1.k9webprotection.com/get-k9- ... ction-free

-Sign up, block the 'pornography' category.

-Go to your e-mail and make a password and secret answers that you won't remember and then log out, since you didn't create an alternative e-mail there's no way you will ever be able to go back in. :mrgreen:

Now that you can't view it on your computer, you'll still have to rely on your will power to not buy porn or view it on any other accessible source.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:33 am 
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I like porn, it is funny :lol:

And I've liked it when I've had porno sex, it is fun sometimes. :twisted:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:17 pm 
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Libertas wrote:
Let go your resistance against porn. What you resist, persists. Plus, quitting cold turkey is possible.
If you don't resist you'll end up jerking off again, best to just quit cold turkey and suffer the withdrawals.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:05 pm 
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Libertas wrote:
Let go your resistance against porn. What you resist, persists. Plus, quitting cold turkey is possible.
davidhnow wrote:
I like porn, it is funny :lol:

And I've liked it when I've had porno sex, it is fun sometimes. :twisted:
I agree with both of the above.

Letting go of your resistance is a positive move.

Then even more positive, if you feel you HAVE to watch porn is to really watch it, see how the people are acting and see it for what it really is.

It is NOT real, well most of it.. there is a rare small amount that is real and feels real but most of it is so contrived and acted out - see it for what it really is.

Once you do that, cold turkey will not be a problem as it will not have the same effect on you anymore. It just will not appeal.

It is a very rare porno where the actors involved have a real connection and it comes across properly... Once you really see that and see what is lacking I would be surprised if it still had the old effect on you.

Most porn I have been shown has NO effect on me, if anything it makes me softer not harder.
I do have to say that there are rare examples that have a very strong effect, because of the connection between the people within it showing through. If you are going to watch any, watch that :)

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:20 am 
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Alchemist - What he means don't resist the thought/feeling of wanting to watch porn, because it will just repress it an blow up, not the porn itself. This is a very subtle, yet huge distinction.

Pere- I agree 100%. I know because I tried the whole quit porn and then I would binge. Now I watch it sometimes, and sometimes I don't. But I understand know, very well, how fake it is, and you can see actually when the actors are enjoying it, esp. the women and it is a very small percentage of the time.

I no longer see it is a bad thing, because I see the matrix of it now. But then again my whole mindset has shifted around women in general, not just around porn. I see the women in there as it just being there job, and they are very lucky if they actually get to enjoy it. Read interviews with porn stars, both male and female, and you'll see how much of a matrix it is, just a job.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:20 am 
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Alchemist - What he means don't resist the thought/feeling of wanting to watch porn, because it will just repress it an blow up, not the porn itself. This is a very subtle, yet huge distinction.

Pere- I agree 100%. I know because I tried the whole quit porn and then I would binge. Now I watch it sometimes, and sometimes I don't. But I understand know, very well, how fake it is, and you can see actually when the actors are enjoying it, esp. the women and it is a very small percentage of the time.

I no longer see it is a bad thing, because I see the matrix of it now. But then again my whole mindset has shifted around women in general, not just around porn. I see the women in there as it just being there job, and they are very lucky if they actually get to enjoy it. Read interviews with porn stars, both male and female, and you'll see how much of a matrix it is, just a job.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:25 pm 
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Do you mean if one gets the urge and they don't act out then eventually the desire dissolves? that would make sense, what helped me quit was also recognizing that I deserve better and how fucked up it is to be on the other side of the fence wishing you could have what you're not allowed to but everyone else is, it's masochistic, that's how I see porn, it made me ashamed whenever I was turned on by a girl in real life.

I know how contrived it is, it's just the residual effects I have to undo now, that's a battle in itself.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:24 pm 
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Porn gives you the chance to see naked women any time you want.
Any kind of size and nationality... Except for Palmy, believe me I've tried:P*

Its bad for you as we've discovered (*insert obvious contradiction here*... No seriously, please do!)
but how can you resist your primal instinct and drive to look at boobs given the chance?

Make it impossible. Do NG, join a club/group where women are in abundance, get laid.

Honestly, I prefer the pictures than to actual real life women. This is called "madness".






*Too far?... No.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:39 pm 
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It can be hell sometimes but there's no way I can go back.

Wanting what you can't have is a fucked up concept, that's what porn reinforces.

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