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 Post subject: Trying to help people
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:06 am 
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So me and my sister were talking. She was complaining how my mom annoys her, woke her up early that morning. T-storm, sis forgot to put up car windows last time. I told her just accept mom. She said stupid people annoy her not gonna not get annoyed. Got in an argument cause she didn't want me to tell her what to do. No change. Anytime I try to help somebody never seems to work. My mom tells me she can't change mom's worry. Etc. Most people act like I'm attacking them. I get like that too although when I'm conscious I'm trying not to. How do you help?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:27 am 
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Anytime I try to help somebody never seems to work.
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My mom tells me she can't change mom's worry.
Hmmmm


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:36 am 
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Ask yourself this simple question...DID EITHER OF THEM ASK FOR YOUR DAMN HELP? :|

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:14 pm 
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No they didn't however I had hoped to be constructive. I did feel this way if they didn't come to me then they won't listen. I figured there must be a way to bring my point across without raising resistance.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:18 pm 
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I hope that by now you have realized something... :geek:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:36 pm 
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What? I can't give them what they didn't ask for? For some reason I think your not talking about subject.


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foofatron wrote:
What? I can't give them what they didn't ask for? For some reason I think your not talking about subject.
Well...looks like I'm done here...can't reason with denial. :roll:

*looks around*...anyone else want a crack at this? :geek:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:00 pm 
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What? I can't give them what they didn't ask for? For some reason I think your not talking about subject.
If you hang long enuff you will realise everything does.

How would you react if somebody constantly did something that you don't like, especially if you can't see a problem in your doings :?:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:36 pm 
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Prodigy I'm not sure if I read your question right. You mean we all do things that other people don't like and we don't realize there's a problem with our actions. How would I act if I was confronted? Unless I think I may be wrong the same. Although later I usually consider their point of view.
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I get like that too although when I'm conscious I'm trying not to.
When I'm aware of how I'm reacting when somebody's trying to help me I try to stop and listen. When I think I could learn or I may be wrong.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:06 pm 
@ foofatron

focus on yourself.

To be recognized for your greatness. You need to focus on great character.

People come to you for advice when they see that you don't have problems.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:16 pm 
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Hear is the action : got into an argument because SHE DIDN'T WANT,
I think you read right.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:28 pm 
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foofatron, when you post next time please separate into paragraphs. I tell everyone that ;)

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:26 am 
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rkd1990 wrote:
@ foofatron

focus on yourself.

To be recognized for your greatness. You need to focus on great character.

People come to you for advice when they see that you don't have problems.
I dig this.

Sniper, I had thought my paragraph was all on the same topic. I can see how thats hard to read.

I think I was tired please excuse that. I however usually don't write well first time around, need to proof read more.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:59 pm 
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Sometimes people ask for advice even when you have problems.. People quite often ask me about things, often relationships.. Few times I got told "Fufe you tell me things that make me mad, sad, sometimes depressed, but in the end I know you are right".
I simply tell people what they need to hear, it seems

Also notice, there are people who want your help, and people who don't want any help, but want to talk about their problems.


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fufe wrote:
there are people who want your help, and people who don't want any help, but want to talk about their problems.

Waaay more people that want to talk then the ones that want help.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:01 am 
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I have less than no patience for those people...no matter how bad it is you can pick yourself up.

But instead people just give up or don't even try.... :?

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I am sooooo confused at this thread :?


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Leo wrote:
I am sooooo confused at this thread :?
"Never correct a fool man when he makes a mistake or he will hate you.
Correct a wise man when he makes a mistake and he will appreciate you." 8-)

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:15 am 
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Are they asking for your help now? Are you willing to listen ? If so...

I found this
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Så vill du hjälpa någon i din närhet att genomföra en behövlig förändring så börja leka detektiv och lyssna på allt som sägs men också på det som inte sägs för att upptäcka vad de verkliga hindren är och vad personen behöver för att kunna eliminera dem.
It says,

~If you want to help someone near you to carry out a needed change,
start playing a detective and listen to everything said, and also
things that are not said
to discover what the real obstacles are,
and what that person needs, to be able to eliminate the obstacles.~

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Altair wrote:
...depending on the situation wanting to save people is an externalization of your own desire to be saved.
From: http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopi ... 8&start=40

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Women just want an ear to talk to many times.

Haven't you ever heard two women talk for days?

Maybe she just wanted you to LISTEN and not give her advice.


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