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Ok I figured something out
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Author:  The Kidd!! [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:53 pm ]
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What country are you in, fufe? Have you considered joining the military?
Author:  fufe [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:01 pm ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
What country are you in, fufe? Have you considered joining the military?
I'm in Czech Republic.. I can't join military, I have asthma, eczema offten..
Are you advising me to follow your footsteps ? :geek:
Author:  The Kidd!! [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:23 pm ]
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fufe wrote:
The Kidd!! wrote:
What country are you in, fufe? Have you considered joining the military?
I'm in Czech Republic.. I can't join military, I have asthma, eczema offten..
Are you advising me to follow your footsteps ? :geek:
Not necessarily...just saying if your situation is really as impossible as you feel it is, then the military can often be a last ditch effort to change your circumstances. Didn't know about your health issues tho. :geek:
Author:  Sai [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:24 pm ]
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Fufe at this point in your life women will only cause more expenses. I know what it is like to want a companion and don't have one, but you need to focus on getting your life together man. you need to exhaust all your resources.
Author:  peregrinus [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:30 pm ]
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If you did get a woman, as you desire to - I feel she would merely be a crutch, a band aid.

She would not be the solution.
Author:  fufe [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:03 pm ]
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peregrinus wrote:
If you did get a woman, as you desire to - I feel she would merely be a crutch, a band aid.

She would not be the solution.
I'm aware of this, but I'd could use some support..

I happened to be at friend's home today and watching his relationship with his parents made me realise something. I live only with my mother, about 7 years or so now.. She comes from work and talks to me about what happened, people who went to the shop etc, wants support verbally.. I thought this is normal but from what I've seen it's not.. In some ways it looks to me like if I was filling the role of the father.. And I always thought why do I feel instantly tired when she comes home

funny thing is the girl I talked about in the earlier thread has simmilar situation, - lives with her mother, which is very emotional, so the girl took the masculine position since she was little and tried to not feel emotions so much (that's why she can pretend calmness so good) etc.. That's what she told me basically.

It looks to me that I was conditioned since I was little to feminime position and she's been conditioned to masculine position.. Both of us are messed up so much it's unreal.. That's why I'm attracted to her, I Believe.. Mirror
Author:  The Kidd!! [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:11 pm ]
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...now re-read the post I made contrasting your parents that you ignored...it'll probably make a lot more sense now. :geek:
Author:  fufe [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:16 pm ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
Well geez no wonder why you're so messed up...your household is my worst nightmare: A browbeaten father and an overbearing yet entitled mother. Imma pray for you. :(

NO SARCASM :ugeek:
This ? My english fails about these words : "browbeaten father" "overbearing yet entitled mother"
I'm honestly not sure at all about the meaning... Could you please elaborate ? :geek:
It's not like I'm ignoring your posts.. I know you know what you are talking about :geek:
Author:  The Kidd!! [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:32 pm ]
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Basically...your mom is your dad and your dad is your mom. ;)
Author:  fufe [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:52 pm ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
Basically...your mom is your dad and your dad is your mom. ;)
Ok.. Now it's clear, thanks

what do I have to do ? I'm sure it's tons of things but where to start....
Author:  The Kidd!! [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:34 pm ]
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fufe wrote:
The Kidd!! wrote:
Basically...your mom is your dad and your dad is your mom. ;)
Ok.. Now it's clear, thanks

what do I have to do ? I'm sure it's tons of things but where to start....
There is nothing you can do about your mom being manly and your dad being bitchmade (which possibly forced your mom's hand to become more masculine...the plot thickens...)...that dynamic has existed between them since before you were born. One less thing for you to concern yourself with. :ugeek:
Author:  fufe [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:37 pm ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
fufe wrote:
The Kidd!! wrote:
Basically...your mom is your dad and your dad is your mom. ;)
Ok.. Now it's clear, thanks

what do I have to do ? I'm sure it's tons of things but where to start....
There is nothing you can do about your mom being manly and your dad being bitchmade (which possibly forced your mom's hand to become more masculine...the plot thickens...)...that dynamic has existed between them since before you were born. One less thing for you to concern yourself with. :ugeek:
Right but it had impact on me, I see myself feminime (or bitchmade as you put :D) in some ways, I mentioned it earlier... So what can I really do about myself.. Or is it not that bad ?
Author:  The Kidd!! [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:42 pm ]
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Just being aware of it is more than most guys in your shoes can say...you're already ahead of the power curve. You want a magic bullet? There is none...if you don't like the current direction your life is going in, then take it upon yourself to CHANGE THE FUCKING DIRECTION. :ugeek:

...and I mean that as nicely as possible. :mrgreen:
Author:  fufe [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:24 pm ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
Just being aware of it is more than most guys in your shoes can say...you're already ahead of the power curve. You want a magic bullet? There is none...if you don't like the current direction your life is going in, then take it upon yourself to CHANGE THE FUCKING DIRECTION. :ugeek:

...and I mean that as nicely as possible. :mrgreen:
Okay, understood.. Thanks :geek:
Author:  fufe [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:05 pm ]
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I found out.. when I'm tired and/or feel like shit, and I talk to some girl I got, like, my battery charged and I'm ok.. Is that bad ?
Author:  peregrinus [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:26 pm ]
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fufe wrote:
I found out.. when I'm tired and/or feel like shit, and I talk to some girl I got, like, my battery charged and I'm ok.. Is that bad ?
That sounds quite externally influenced.

Is that how you feel?
Author:  Sniper [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:39 pm ]
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fufe wrote:
I found out.. when I'm tired and/or feel like shit, and I talk to some girl I got, like, my battery charged and I'm ok.. Is that bad ?
I know what your problem is, but I'll let you figure it out...

dig deep...

what does the girl say that makes you feel so good?
are the girls that you are talking to have a PHD in psychology? or are they so smart that they know about the human psyche better than you or some of the guys here?
Author:  Aragorn [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:07 pm ]
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Yeah fufe, I could see what your problem is as well, but I won't go against Sniper and let you figure it out. Poke around in your head a little, ask a lot of why questions and you'll draw your own conclusions.
Author:  fufe [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:14 pm ]
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Sniper wrote:
fufe wrote:
I found out.. when I'm tired and/or feel like shit, and I talk to some girl I got, like, my battery charged and I'm ok.. Is that bad ?
I know what your problem is, but I'll let you figure it out...

dig deep...

what does the girl say that makes you feel so good?
are the girls that you are talking to have a PHD in psychology? or are they so smart that they know about the human psyche better than you or some of the guys here?
Motivate me, practically.. I never had motivation to do anything just for myself. I don't get why I should work hard to be better, if I like what I am.. It's a conflict... You guys put inside my head thought that I have to work on myself, but I probably wouldn't If I didn't have to.. I don't like doing things I don't really like, I don't count work because I have to eat but otherwise..
Author:  Sniper [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:16 pm ]
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fufe wrote:
I don't get why I should work hard to be better, if I like what I am.. It's a conflict... You guys put inside my head thought that I have to work on myself, but I probably wouldn't If I didn't have to.. I don't like doing things I don't really like, I don't count work because I have to eat but otherwise..
You can lie to yourself if you want but the truth is: You don't like what you are, by that I mean:
you don't like being 'needy', you don't like the fact that you rely on female attention to feel good.
stop lying to yourself :|
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You guys put inside my head thought that I have to work on myself,
now it's our fault? hmm
if you didn't feel as if you needed to work on yourself you wouldn't have. Anything that you do - is because Deep down you know you need to.... no one on this forum does anything just because someone else told him to do it.
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but I probably wouldn't If I didn't have to.. I don't like doing things I don't really like, I don't count work because I have to eat but otherwise..
well you can stay needy if you think you can live with it. But you know the truth:
women can afford to be needy a Man can't.
It's not fair but that's the way things are.

So do whatever you want, you choose...

maybe you are not ready for this stuff yet - no offense of course, when I was your age I don't know if I was ready...
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