Natural Freedom

Forum for the natural awakening and self-realization of men
It is currently Fri Oct 31, 2025 10:05 pm

All times are UTC+01:00




Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:31 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:35 pm
Posts: 773
I've been a part of this forum for this past week, and have had many mind-fuck moments while here. I've started reading "The Manipulated Man" and listened to "The 50th Power" by Robert Greene, and this, plus the posts on this forum, will be the only remaining things on I plan to read for quite a while (too much keyboard jockeying while reading PUA books has been done). I read Kidd's posts, but some if it has seemed confusing and I plan to come back to that.

I've also done some...well, I wouldn't call it meditation, but I've looked into why I feel depressed/disliked whenever those feelings do come. I've realized some things that I didn't see before I came to this forum, and I'd appreciate it if some of you guys that know about this more than I do could comment.

1) Up to now, a large portion of the things I've said, done and the way I've acted have been approval seeking. When I thought about it, a large part of my childhood was spent in different countries, where I was encouraged (by my parents and peers) to seek approval. My happiness was limited to what other people thought of me. If people laughed at my jokes, I felt great. Vice versa, if I felt as if people weren't responding well to me, I felt like a lesser human being. My greatest fear is/was being alone and having everybody hate me.
That stops now. Life's too short to go about and try to please people. I know it's not the way to go going forward, but this past week I've thought about what I was going to say, or what I'd do that day, and see whether I actually wanted to do it, or whether it was something being done or said to gain approval. It was eye opening. When I talk to people now, it's more authentic, and there's no lingering feeling of nervousness (as if I was feeling around to see if the other person likes me). I felt quite sickened with myself for acting like this, but it's time to move forward.

2) Women have the social matrix figured out. They know guys are conditioned to try and chase after them, or try to impress them. Even observing my classroom, I could see guys trying to make girls laugh, or say impressive things, while hoping they get a laugh in return. It's like this unspoken way of going about social interactions in the world, and I haven't seen it up until now. But, moving forward, I will never, ever supplicate or do what I've been doing up until now. There's no reason to - I'm trying to get into an elite university, while balancing school, gym time and practices and my social life. There's no place for pedestals or pussy's. If a great girl comes along that I enjoy being around, great. I feel I now have the basic tools to actually enjoy conversations without thinking about obsolete stupid shit that I've been programmed to, which I'm excited about as well.

3) I have also been way too passive and expectant in every part of my life. I don't know if there's a post about this on here, or whether I just realized this while "meditating", but I've realized that I'm responsible for whatever I get out of life. I've been waiting for good things to come without working or doing anything about them - I'd bitch about the house being filthy without actually cleaning it up myself. That, I think, ties into the 1st part of my post. The same way I wanted to get good shit out of life, I also wanted happiness to just come from an outside source. Everything comes from within, and that needs to get engraved in my brain before I take the next step. So when I feel happy, it'll be because I feel happy from within, not because somebody's paying attention to me or whatever bullshit reasons I had before.

My front and clout have the potential to be great, but I need to put in the effort as well. Same with the mindset change - it'll be a battle, but it's improved a lot and I plan on it continually improving.

If that seemed too confusing, I decided to type this up after I came home from school so I don't forget to post it. Any comments would be great.

_________________
Take it easy, man. But take it.


Top
   
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:12 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:08 pm
Posts: 3452
Location: UK
Some great realisations and admissions in there.

Plenty to look at and examine. Also plenty of ways to move forward, as you have already identified some areas you would like to see change and the direction in which you desire to move forward.

Bravo!

_________________
In building a statue, a sculptor doesn't keep adding clay to his subject.He keeps chiseling away at the inessentials until the truth of its creation is revealed without obstructions. Perfection is not when there is no more to add,but no more to take away.


Top
   
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 02, 2010 6:49 am
Posts: 5121
Sounds like you're on the right track to me. 8-)

_________________
EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING. :ugeek:

Pimposophy Revisited is now finally available on Amazon in all territories!


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:55 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:55 pm
Posts: 3428
Location: Canada
That's great man, 50th law will provide you with many insights

I wouldn't say women have the matrix figured out. They buy the same lies and pay the same price men do just in different ways

They are also to a large extent byproducts of their surroundings like an amoeba floating it doesn't think it just does :geek:

_________________
"The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man. Even so, who can know him."


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:57 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:55 pm
Posts: 3428
Location: Canada
I thought about it more and since it won't let me edit I'll have to double post.

Society gives us a set of rules, that if we follow are supposed to make us happy, by gaining external validation. For guys were supposed to get a good education, good job, nice car, nice house, trophy wife.

Women are supposed to be attractive and find a guy with all these things and get married. Yay! everyone is happy...but not really. All of society focuses on male unhappiness and shortcomings but never puts any blame of women. whatever it is what it is.

In a situation like this to me it isn't a mirror because you cannot view both sides at once. It's more like a coin it has a ying and yang (heads and tails) but it's ultimately the same coin (set of rules/cause of unhappiness)

I suppose as I evolve and learn to let go of my defensiveness and fear of being judged. I can observe the world through a more impartial eye.

_________________
"The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man. Even so, who can know him."


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:11 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:35 pm
Posts: 773
Thanks for the replies guys. I still have a lot of work to do, but I'm beginning to see a difference. Hopefully this isn't some one-time ego boost, cause it feels real and different than anything I've ever felt. I guess I'd call it freedom.
Morpheus wrote:

In a situation like this to me it isn't a mirror because you cannot view both sides at once. It's more like a coin it has a ying and yang (heads and tails) but it's ultimately the same coin (set of rules/cause of unhappiness)
I don't really understand, care to explain that a little more? You mean that I can't really see the world from a women's point of view?

_________________
Take it easy, man. But take it.


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:27 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:55 pm
Posts: 3428
Location: Canada
Nope, that wasn't what I was saying at all. I was just thinking out loud. Not directed at you, myself.

_________________
"The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man. Even so, who can know him."


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 

All times are UTC+01:00


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to: 

cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited