Beyonce's song is a feminist stance on the 'wrong-doings' of man, basically she's saying if she was a 'boy' she wouldn't do all the bad things they do, she'd be a 'better man' *cue crazy random octave vox*

Very good. It's just another way that women try to use media to program us to what they want...but they are so goddammed nearsighted that they fail to realize that they truly don't want what they THINK they want. Unfortunately some, if not most men are buying this bullshit hook, line, and sinker.

No bueno.

So Kidd I'm just wondering, what do they get out of this? I find it hard to believe that women are intentionally programing the masses of men through the media. Unless it's all interconnected and the same people who make these videos are profiting off of other businesses connected to it like jewelery and crap. Obviously the motivation is money, unless they really are sadistic bitches and want men to bow down to them. Or maybe the media just controls people in general, one big conspiracy that people think is so crazy but it's hidden right before their very eyes.

Naw...not intentional at all...and by that I mean they they are not intentionally trying to bend men to their will. They ARE, however, intentionally looking for some sympathy and understanding. So, their motives are generally innocent. But, what they fail to realize is that it is doing much more harm for women than good.

But later she said she is sorry she took part in it because she thinks that although the original goal was good the way they did it was all wrong. And now she openly admits that they did women a lot more harm than good..

Naw...not intentional at all...and by that I mean they they are not intentionally trying to bend men to their will. They ARE, however, intentionally looking for some sympathy and understanding. So, their motives are generally innocent. But, what they fail to realize is that it is doing much more harm for women than good.

peregrinus once sent me something, I think he also posted about it here on the forum somehwere...there was a woman who was a famous writer and a voice in the early feminist movement.

But later she said she is sorry she took part in it because she thinks that although the original goal was good the way they did it was all wrong. And now she openly admits that they did women a lot more harm than good..

"Man made one grave mistake: in answer to vaguely reformist and humanitarian agitation he admitted women to politics and the professions. The conservatives who saw this as the undermining of our civilization and the end of the state and marriage were right after all; it is time for the demolition to begin."

Ok lol, that makes a lot more sense. I understand that women do get treated very shitty by some guys, but they put themselves in those situations and then stay in them. There's only so much sympathy and understanding that I can have for someone that keeps making the same mistakes over and over again. Likewise there are guys that stay in relationships with cheating whores. Maybe more women should learn to observe before diving head first into a failed relationship.

So basically guys are being led to believe that they aren't being compassionate enough towards women and then end up sucking up to them. Then this leads to women becoming drunk with the power they get from having guys bend over backwards for them. The end result being guys are giving women what they want and not what they need. What a disaster.