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Nope - Amongst men, since you chose that : ENFJ is 1-3%, INFJ is 1-2%, INTJ is 2-6%, ENFJ is very close but not the rarest.. INFJ takes that crown.
Looks like a good (wo)man IS hard to find after all! 
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| Author: | peregrinus [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:56 pm ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: Fifty Shades Trilogy | |
diego was short and sweet. fufe, personality type has a lot to do with it.
I see... I'm an ENFJ, I think that's the rarest type amongst men, 3% or so.. Nope - Amongst men, since you chose that : ENFJ is 1-3%, INFJ is 1-2%, INTJ is 2-6%, ENFJ is very close but not the rarest.. INFJ takes that crown (ref: http://www.capt.org/mbti-assessment/est ... encies.htm among others)Amongst men and women, the order is INFJ, INTJ, ENFJ + ENTJ tied Gonzo, contracts are widely known within the BDSM world, because of its nature and implications. The author has admitted in interviews that this is why she put it in, also to allay any claims as to the book being 'abusive' towards the woman. ------------- Now onto the main event: zogler, what can I say? I enjoyed reading your eloquent post, well put points. Once sentence really stands out and explains it concisely. Backed up by some of the explanations you give earlier in the post. Nice to see you spotted the meaning behind where I chose to post it. Bravo! |
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| Author: | The Kidd!! [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:56 pm ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: Fifty Shades Trilogy | |
Nope - Amongst men, since you chose that : ENFJ is 1-3%, INFJ is 1-2%, INTJ is 2-6%, ENFJ is very close but not the rarest.. INFJ takes that crown.
Looks like a good (wo)man IS hard to find after all!
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| Author: | Star_Above [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fifty Shades Trilogy |
Seems like the books are nothing like how the bitch was telling me about them...a girl being wrong? No way
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| Author: | zogler [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fifty Shades Trilogy |
Before handing her the contract, he buys her a wardrobe full of clothes, some valuable and expensive books, a mobile phone, a laptop and a car within the first week. In essence, he buys her acceptance and signature regarding the contract. He buys her consent to the power exchange because deep inside he is a symp, who is thinking that she needs to be compensated for this "sacrifice". On the contrary, a real man would acknowledge that her submission to a dominant male was what she was wholeheartedly waiting for and dreaming about since she discovered her sexuality. This way the writer further promotes a pattern that is well set for decades now. By being submissive behind the bedroom doors, women get in return the submission of men in every other aspect of their relationship. Thus, allthough men brag about being dominant and getting away with everything in bed, it is women who are really pulling the strings from behind the scenes. A sufficient but not necessary condition of the success of a book is the fact that it offers an opportunity for the reader to identify with one of the characters. This time the writer went a step further by letting the female reader not only identify with the protagonist, but feeling and knowing that she is superior to her. The ridiculous quality of writing clearly indicates that the vast majority of women, and the majority of men, are illiterate and foolish or educated and intelligent but so stressed and busy that their brains' capacity can't stand a thought-provoking, demanding book. It reminds me of Brent Smith's band-aid solution to the inferiority complex: the infamous affirmations. You listen to or read something and then you try to convert it to voices in your subconscious. Consciously you will know that the underlying cause of the problem remains and you are just fooling yourself. Why not improve yourself in all areas, enabling you to love yourself and grow dependent only on it (or grow independent of everything else)? Why not KNOW you are instead of THINKING you are? Right, because you always prefer that simple, quick, magic solution. Guess what: it is also ineffective. By the way, I believe every employer and employee should be aware of topics like viral marketing, social contagion, herd behaviour, the wisdom of the crowds, crowdsourcing. The Kidd! and peregrinus, I appreciate your wisdom and contribution in this forum, it has really changed my life and influenced me enormously (something obvious in my posts). I have told my family that during the last 5 months as a member of this forum, I have learnt MANY more (and invaluable) things than 21.5 years as a member of my family. It appears that nurture began working its magic at last. Something more than a month before I move to the UK for my postgraduate studies (at last I will start living my life alone, controlling nearly every aspect of it, far away from my family and the usual habits and "qualities" it encompasses), this book could be useful as a tool to disqualify some girls there, depending on their evaluation of it.Star, it would be fun to share what she told you about the trilogy. |
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| Author: | The Kidd!! [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fifty Shades Trilogy |
Well damn, zogler...this just gets better and better!  Attention forum members new and old...the zogler model here is what you should be aspiring to emulate. See that post count?!? That implicitly shows that this man did way more reading, self-reflecting and inner work (befriending his demons) than questioning shit that had already been laid out for him here in this forum!  I salute you, zogler...and I'm glad that I was able to influence you somewhat in your amazing transformation. I'm sure 'Grinus is loving this as well...I can practically hear that man smiling.
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| Author: | peregrinus [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:28 pm ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: Fifty Shades Trilogy | |
I salute you, zogler...and I'm glad that I was able to influence you somewhat in your amazing transformation. I'm sure 'Grinus is loving this as well...I can practically hear that man smiling. Very much so, looking at the timing of your post, I was sitting there reading zogler's post, contemplating and smiling as you wrote yours.zogler -- I also second the comment Kidd makes about the post count and what it says about what zogler has spent his time doing.. It is a very good example. |
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| Author: | Dali [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fifty Shades Trilogy |
Hat's off to zogler. 
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| Author: | Sniper [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:59 pm ] | |
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It reminds me of Brent Smith's band-aid solution to the inferiority complex: the infamous affirmations. You listen to or read something and then you try to convert it to voices in your subconscious. Consciously you will know that the underlying cause of the problem remains and you are just fooling yourself.
I owe The Kidd some smokes, there was a time where I believed (or rather 'wanted to believe' that affirmations can fix my problems). When Kidd used to say: 'Hooey'I told him that he doesn't understand the power of affirmations. Well after some time I tested it and realized that (once again) Kidd was right. Affirmations don't work... @Dali I loved how you described affirmations on the Cory Skyy thread (credit goes to you  ):![[ img ]](http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m543/iceman138/third%20album/good-luck19-1.gif) ![[ img ]](http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m543/iceman138/third%20album/greenparrot-1.jpg)
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| Author: | The Kidd!! [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:05 pm ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: Fifty Shades Trilogy | |
I owe The Kidd some smokes
You owe me a goddamn tobacco company.
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| Author: | Star_Above [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:59 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Fifty Shades Trilogy | ||
Star, it would be fun to share what she told you about the trilogy.
I was told that it was about this 20 year old chick that gets together with this 40 year old guy and he dominates her, she submits to him and they fuck a lot. Because I know it's as huge as the whole Twilight extravaganza I thought it would give Marquee value a shot of steroids...I didn't know it was about a fuck'n symp buying a girl shit to be able to fuck her.....fuck sakes. Great post btw, you sound like you got your shit on lockdown and are gonna have a great ride!
You owe me a goddamn tobacco company.
I actually use to believe affirmations worked too, I've since changed my views and it IS hooey...sitting down and self-reflecting on your beliefs and why they are, then looking for references to change them in your favor is what works...but since you owe me so many goddamn smokes I'll just deduct the ones I owe you from them
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| Author: | The Kidd!! [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fifty Shades Trilogy |
It's just like I BEEN saying...CONfirmations is where it's at, ShitPossum! 
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| Author: | Star_Above [ Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fifty Shades Trilogy |
Indeed shitwombat! |
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| Author: | peregrinus [ Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fifty Shades Trilogy |
Went to a bookstore today, looking for a present. I found it somewhat surprising to see how many 'fifty shades' copies were around on the shelves in the 'buy this book' section next to the bestsellers section. Really should have expected it, given all the hype etc. Literally, row after row of what seemed like copycat or bandwagon books, from reading the titles and looking at the covers. Am guessing that all the publishers have gone back through those lists of books they decided not to publish and decided a few of them would do rather well, in the wake of shades. Came home and on a whim decided to check out the review ratings on Ama*on. The results: Amaz - UK (3,650 reviews) 5 star - 1,648 4 star - 304 3 star - 301 2 star - 282 1 star - 1,115 Amaz - US (9,869 Reviews) 5 star - 4,024 4 star - 968 3 star - 752 2 star - 889 1 star - 3,236 A very polarised view on both sides of the Atlantic... Most going 5 or 1 star, with less in the middle. |
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| Author: | StephenP [ Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fifty Shades Trilogy |
Zogler. On fire!! Inspiring my man!! |
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| Author: | zogler [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fifty Shades Trilogy |
Since the voters on Amazon are anonymous, it wouldn't surprise me if many men blackballed the book to distort the distribution of the votes, effectively affecting the image and sales of the trilogy. Male votes certainly don't fit to a female poll (it is female since the book belongs to female literature) and are highly biased, a fact that doesn't go hand in hand with accurate conclusions. I also suspect that many of the female voters had bought the hype and formed unrealistic, high expectations before reading the book, naturally leading to their frustration after finishing. Reading the book calmly, without getting overexcited before even touching it, would make it a mediocre to mildy pleasant read for most women. Grinus, whatever the present you chose, you know that you are the real present for the person the present was intended, the time you spend with it, the fact that you exist in its life. The reverse is also true I suppose. And that is the key for our presents to be successful. |
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| Author: | Dali [ Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:12 am ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: Fifty Shades Trilogy | |
Video from channel4 about this book: http://www.channel4.com/programmes/sex- ... f-grey/4od
10.03PM Sun 29 July 2012C4
Duration: 47:07 Has Fifty Shades of Grey really transformed us from a nation of prudes to one of happy spankers? It may have brought bondage into the mainstream, but are the British really ready to embrace sexual experimentation? From visiting a spanking class, where novices are trained in the art of a good caning, to exploring the world of an S&M couple who have written sex contracts with each other, this documentary uncovers what the erotic paperback phenomenon tells us about 21st-century Britain. The programme examines the sociological and cultural effects the book is having in the UK, as sales of obscure classical music and bondage gear increase. A book club from North Yorkshire read the bestseller for the very first time and share their verdict, while adult retailers Ann Summers reveal what steps they are taking to exploit this trend. Psychologist and sex columnist Pamela Stephenson and Brooke Magnanti, who wrote Belle De Jour, share their reactions to the Fifty Shades of Grey phenomenon. The book has crossed continents, class barriers and the context in which porn is read - on the train, in book groups and even at the hairdresser. |
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| Author: | The Pokemon Trainer [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fifty Shades Trilogy |
The average woman will never see literature as anything more than material for mental masturbation: ![[ img ]](http://i47.tinypic.com/og9f2t.jpg)
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| Author: | Star_Above [ Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:44 pm ] | |
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The average woman will never see literature as anything more than material for mental masturbation:
Fuck'n idiots
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| Author: | Sniper [ Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:41 am ] | ||
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The average woman will never see literature as anything more than material for mental masturbation:
Fuck'n idiots
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| Author: | Altair [ Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fifty Shades Trilogy |
Figured I'd resurrect this thread. With the movie out I cannot help but lol at all the feminists and white knights losing their mind. It's actually quite amusing. I think I'll watch it and see what interesting things it holds. |
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