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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:10 am 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk-7Ql_5 ... re=related

Very interesting...if your not paying attention and get caught up in the music youll miss it. In the music industry if you look youll see various "power" symbols being used. Especially around these guys and Kayne West Rihanna etc.

Which has caused members of various religions to publically slander these artists so the fact they are using ammo (attacks) they wanted these groups to give them to play off and keep the fire going.

Smoke and mirrors.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:28 pm 
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what kind of symbols do they use in the video ?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:03 pm 
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Morpheus wrote:
if your not paying attention and get caught up in the music youll miss it.
If what is important is the lyrcis, here it is :
Quote:
[Jay-Z: Verse]
Motherfuckers say that I'm foolish, I only talk about jewels
Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?
See I'm influenced by the ghetto you ruined
That same dude you gave nothing, I made something doing
What I do, through and through and I gave you the news with a twist it's just his ghetto point of view
The renegade you been afraid
I penetrate pop culture, bring 'em a lot closer to the block where they
pop toasters, and they live with they mums
Got dropped roasters, from botched robberies niggas crotched over
Mummy's knocked up cause she wasn't watched over
Knocked down by some clown when child support knocked
No he's not around now how that sound to ya, jot it down
I'll bring you through the ghetto without ridin round
hiding down duckin strays from frustrated youths stuck in they ways
Just read a magazine that fucked up my day
How you rate music that thugs with nothing relate to it?
I help them see they way through it, not you.
Can't step in my pants, can't walk in my shoes
Bet everything you worth; you lose your tie and your shirt.

[Eminem: Verse]
Since I'm in a position to talk to these kids and they listen
I ain't no politician but I'll kick it with em a minute
Cause see they call me a menace and if the shoe fits I'll wear it
But if it don't, then ya'll swallow the truth grin and bear it
Now who's the king of these rude ludicrous lucrative lyrics
Who could inherit the title, put the youth in hysterics
Using his music to steer it sharing his views in his marriage
But there's a huge interference they're sayin you shouldn't hear it
Maybe it's hatred I spew, maybe it's food for the spirit
Maybe it's beautiful music I made for you to just cherish
But I'm debated disputed hated and viewed in America
as a motherfuckin drug addict like you didn't experiment?
Now now, that's when you start to stare at who's in the mirror
and see yourself as a kid again, and you get embarrassed
And I got nothing to do but make you look stupid as parents
You fuckin do-gooders - too bad you couldn't DO-GOOD at marriage!
And do you have any clue what I had to do to get here I don't
think you do so stay tuned and keep your ears glued to the stereo
Cause here we go, he's {Jigga durra Jigga da chk Jigga}
And I'm the sinister, Mr. Kiss-My-Ass it's just the..

[Eminem + Jay-Z - Chorus]
[Eminem]
RENEGADE! Never been afraid to say
what's on my mind at, any given time of day
Cause I'm a RENEGADE! Never been afraid to talk
about anything (ANYTHING) anything (ANYTHING), RENEGADE!

[Jay-Z]
Never been afraid to say
what's on my mind at, any given time of day
Cause I'm a (RENEGADE) Never been afraid to holler
about anything (ANYTHING) anything (ANYTHING)

[Jay-Z: Verse]
I had to hustle, my back to the wall, ashy knuckles
Pockets filled with a lot of lint, not a cent
Gotta vent, lot of innocent of lives lost on the project bench
What you hollarin? Gotta pay rent, bring dollars in
By the bodega, iron under my coat, feelin braver
Doo-rag wrappin my waves up, pockets full of hope
Do not step to me I'm awkward, I box leftier often
My pops left me an orphan, my momma wasn't home
Could not stress to me I wasn't growin, specially on nights
I brought something home to quiet the stomach rumblings
My demeanor thirty years my senior
My childhood didn't mean much, only raisin greener
Raisin my fingers to critics raisin my head to the sky
Big I did it multi(i) before I die (nigga)
No lie, just know I chose my own fate
I drove by the fork in the road and went straight.

[Eminem: Verse]
See I'm a poet to some, a regular modern day Shakespeare
Jesus Christ the King of these Latter Day Saints here
To shatter the picture in which of that as they paint me
as a mother of hate, Satan and scatter-brained atheist
But that ain't the case, see it's a matter of taste
We as a people decide if Shady's as bad as they say he is
Or is he the ladder, a gateway to escape?
Media scapegoat, they can be mad at today
See it's as easy as cake, simple as whistling Dixie
while I'm wavin the pistol at sixty Christians against me
Go to war with the Mormons, take a bath with the Catholics
in holy water no wonder they try to hold me under longer
I'm a motherfuckin spiteful, delightful eyeful
The new Ice Cube, motherfuckers hate to like you
What did I do? (huh) I'm just a kid from the gutter
makin this butter off these bloodsuckers, cause I'm a muh'fuckin

[Eminem + Jay-Z - Chorus]
[Eminem]
RENEGADE! Never been afraid to say
what's on my mind at, any given time of day
Cause I'm a RENEGADE! Never been afraid to talk
about anything (ANYTHING) anything (ANYTHING), RENEGADE!

[Jay-Z]
Never been afraid to say
what's on my mind at, any given time of day
Cause I'm a (RENEGADE) Never been afraid to holler
about anything (ANYTHING) anything (ANYTHING)

[Repeat x2]
Nice music, eminem nailed it :D

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:03 am 
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fufe wrote:
what kind of symbols do they use in the video ?
Not any I noticed in this video. But they use a fair bit of occult symbolism in their music videos, subtle references most people miss. Most of it is anti-christian, which makes the christians angry and they slander a lot of pop culture artists. The symbols are used in the videos, weither or not you follow those religions is irrelevant....personally I think its an attention grab they use controversial means to gain attention and sales. All publicity is good publicity.

This is a response in a lot of ways to Christian pressure to "repent", and this is their response to the pressure those groups give them...it's amusing because they stirred the waters up first.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:04 pm 
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Phew, for a second there I thought you believed that Illuminati nonsense Morpheus.

And what needs to be said is that the 1st verse is quite possibly Eminem's greatest verse...ever. Insane rhyme pattern, flow and rhythm.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:52 am 
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moose35 wrote:
Phew, for a second there I thought you believed that Illuminati nonsense Morpheus.

And what needs to be said is that the 1st verse is quite possibly Eminem's greatest verse...ever. Insane rhyme pattern, flow and rhythm.
You don't beleive it moose? :geek:

Some of it should be taken with a grain of salt, but there IS some influence.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:45 am 
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From who though? I think people see that some people have influence over music and automatically imagine the worst-case masters of control scenario. Record labels and executives control the music business, not the Illuminati (who supposedly caused Eminem's downfall because he was trying to get out from under their control)

If a society wants to be secret, they'll be secret. They sure as shit won't get out into the open to "mess with us" and slowly take over the world. If anything's happening, we probably don't have a clue about it. All of these illuminati artists probably know what people say and simply fuck around with them.


Also, big things like this need hard evidence. You can't point to Jay-Z making a triangle in the video and say the music business is a tool to take over the world. Same with politics, it's circumstantial evidence at best.

This "soon-to be Illuminati" said this too: "Who said a black man in the illuminati last time i checked that was the biggest racist party" - Kendrick Lamar.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:34 pm 
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I agree with you...it's just my opinion that they do this kinda stuff as a tool to sell more records and make more money.
All publicity is good publicity in some cases.

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