Natural Freedom

Look what I just found on the internets:

I have three sons, ages 16, 15, and 12. I was also in an abusive marriage for ten years in which my 15 year old was a frequent target of my x husband. These boys had a rough time of it, as did we all.

After I left my husband my children acted out for a short time, we all spoke of feeling relief and feeling safe yet there were still some rough spots as I got the hang of trying to do it alone.

Several years ago my accountability program found that the computer had been accessing pornography. Turns out it was my middle son. To date he has been 'caught' accessing pornography many times since then. He was 13 I think when this started.

I banned him from the computer, but after a few months I would allow him to be on it for short periods of time. Each and every single time my son would access pornography within days (and sometimes hours) of being allowed back online. He was aware that he would be caught because the computers are monitored but he chose to do it anyway.

Most recently my youngest son allowed my middle son to play with his PSP. Brandon (the middle child) used it to immediately access pornography online. The child is now banned from computers, video games and so forth. I've talked until I'm blue in the face, I've grown angry and yelled, I've cried when I was alone and when I was in front of him. I've had him read Dworkin, my site, and other places (namely OAG's site) and I still can't unseat this problem. He can recite feminist literature all day long, he can understand the tenets, the ideas behind it, how it links together but he will not allow this knowledge to stand in the way of his porn use.

I don't think I'm looking for advice (I've tried everything I could think of so far) but more a place to simply be sad. I can clearly see why he's looking at pornography, I've figured all that out readily enough, but I can't seem to make it stop.

I know, that as soon as my child leaves my home and moves into his own place that he will be looking at porn immediately. I know that I am raising a problem for women. I know that this child will one day grow and will fully absorb the messages that porn sends to men. I know that my child masturbates to degradation of my people (when I use that phrase I mean womyn) and that with every orgasm he will further solidify his own hatred of and superiority over, women.

I know that there will likely come a day where my son coerces a young woman into sex (rape) and there isn't a damned thing I can do about it. I look into the eyes of my son and they still sparkle like they did when he was a baby, but he's not a baby anymore, he's growing into a man and that man will have trained himself to degrade women before he leaves my home.

As a radical feminist who puts women first I cannot begin to determine what I should do with regards to this issue. My heart breaks because there is nothing I can do to protect the womyn he will come into contact with.

I have three boys. One of them is lost to me and as a mother and a radical womyn this breaks my heart in a way I can scarcely express. I don't know if it says something terrible about me, but you know what haunts me late at night? More than anything else? I know, in my heart of hearts that, knowing what I know now, if I had it to do over again I would have had that abortion.

I also find myself blaming myself over and over again, even though that radical womyn inside of me stands up and yells that I'm placing blame in the wrong place. I'm not sure what I intended to say with this message. I began writing it this morning and put it away again and finally decided to finish it this evening. I think that maybe I just wanted to share, I keep trying with Brandon and I keep failing. He simply doesn't care. When he wants to jerk off, everything goes right out the window.

The more you try to stop him, or take it away from him, the more he will want it.

She is also projecting onto him and the situation.

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In building a statue, a sculptor doesn't keep adding clay to his subject.He keeps chiseling away at the inessentials until the truth of its creation is revealed without obstructions. Perfection is not when there is no more to add,but no more to take away.

Just had to add this:

the post above ^^ ain't funny, why is it in the comedy section?

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

I concur that is sad honestly, almost depressing conniving as bitch this should not be in the comedy section. This makes the man look like an idiot.

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~There's weakness in the hearts of all humans are you afraid to acknowledge yours... ~
Mr. Todo

Both make me angry and pissed off, but didn't know where to post.
Got it from a funny website, so I droped it here for everyone on this forum to at least have the chance to read it.
I searched for women logic in google and could not stop reading for the last five hours.
I'm really tired, but can't stop reading and getting angry here.
Sorry for putting it into the wrong subforum.

moved

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

There is so much fail here it's given me a HEADACHE!

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

Pimposophy Revisited is now finally available on Amazon in all territories!

He is an idiot for not seeing through her bullshit.

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"Simply put, you being in her life is a BLESSING. Her wronging you in any way is her own self-inflicted CURSE, and if she does wrong you, then let the punishment fit the crime. Her life will absolutely SUCK without you."

I agree, some part of him knows what is going on. He feels unable to face it, so he keeps it subconscious. Weak

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"The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man. Even so, who can know him."

...and this shit right here?!? Welcome to the real world fellas!

I've been the 'other guy' in this story TOO many times. I would have that bitch picking me up to eat and buying me shit...ALL on her sugar daddy's dime. Don't feel bad for him...and don't be mad at her. Just be glad that YOU will ALWAYS be on the favorable side of the coin.

What you guys SHOULD take away from this story is the fact that this so called gold digging feminist was still a willing, slutty little whore for a man who wasn't doling out the duckets (Sniper, that means he wasn't giving her money )...feminists can only exert their will on those who let them.

A wise man once said...women can only get away with what you LET them get away with...it is up to US to set the precedent and NEVER FALTER!

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

Pimposophy Revisited is now finally available on Amazon in all territories!

I have the feeling that I have to hammer my epiphanies from the manipulated man home to make them really stick in my brain. So I dwell in these things I post here and get pissed, angry and afterwards peaceful.
But if these stories are not the right approach for this forum, just tell me and I will stop posting links like these in this thread:
http://www.ehow.com/how_4457527_make-bo ... dium=test5

Nothing wrong with these...they are in their proper sub forum.

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

Pimposophy Revisited is now finally available on Amazon in all territories!

Didn''t mean the subforum.
Just don't want men to get bitter and hate women by dwelling to long in the anger.
I see it in the thread where I found these stories, the men are getting bitter and angry.
I can totally relate to that reaction, but it has to go and make place for your own ambitions and a new plan in life where you are the most important piece.

But I am probably overthinking this. In this forum there are members like you kidd who went to the other side and hold out a helipng hand to grasp on.

You lead.

You set the frame.

You decide where the line is.

and You goddam stick to it.

Be a man, grow some balls and stick to your choices and decisions.
Much better than being a pussy and caving in at the slightest issue.

She will follow. If she chooses not to, walk away slowly and calmly and do not look back.

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In building a statue, a sculptor doesn't keep adding clay to his subject.He keeps chiseling away at the inessentials until the truth of its creation is revealed without obstructions. Perfection is not when there is no more to add,but no more to take away.

That bitch would be kicked to the curb just because of her spelling. . Biggest pet peeve ever.

EDIT: Also urban dictionaried this "womyn" thing.

Womyn

Another spelling for "women" coined by neurotic feminists for other equally neurotic feminists with the unbridled arrogant mindset that their dated, selfish, totally "unequal" cause justly warrants a ridiculous, contrary-to-diction respelling of an long accepted, objective English word.
"I am a gentleman. I respect women for their independence and ability to hold children unlike myself. I could never do that."

"Shut the hell up you misogynistic pig and learn to spell correctly. Your diction exhibits hatred and inequality. It's "womyn" now. Sucks to be a man like yourself with your dirty penis. I will never have a boyfriend or a husband because men will never go for me because I am most likely ugly, overly arrogant, and/or had a past relationship with an abnormal man who misrepresented an entire population which in consequence has caused a psychological distress and/or neurosis within my mind to reject the entire male population as hopeful and/or completely acceptable."

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"The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man. Even so, who can know him."

Nah, if your not immune then observe why .

Looks like just the right amount of thinking. Feel whatever you want to feel. In drilling when you hit a spot that has pressure, it releases gas and pressure to surface. Not always wanted. But whats interesting is if you force it down and don't let it do it's thing. It goes into the formation, doesn't go away. And explodes at another time you cannot control, and is possibly worse than if left to be.

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"The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man. Even so, who can know him."

@seductchak

feel free to blow some steam brother (I hope that's how you say it in English)

after reading the books I became a women hater for a little while - it took some time until the anger
went away and I made peace with everything and then as Grinus always says: I let it go....

This isn't Zan's fag boat- here you can say everything on your mind.

'Women are bitches'- see?

free speech brother

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

I honestly had a slight suspicion that the letter from the abortion porn-hate lady might have been a cleverly thought out fabrication that someone had put together for a laugh. For me it accurately nailed a few of the traits and affectations of a 'charicature' of an over-the-top feminist. Like... the mention of Dworkin. The funny spelling of woman... Abortion...

Then again, truth can be stranger than fiction and it is entirely possible that this is a real letter from a real 'womyn'.

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I believe in gender equality using the strip club paradigm. While some men consent to throwing their money at pussy, I endorse women throwing their pussy at money. .