Hey Sniper, just to point out - on the humor front, you and I had a conversation about "humor"
Humor is an attractive trait to have in general, but when it comes to attraction and the opposite sex things aren't always as they seem, often quite backwards from what you would first think.
The fact of the matter is this: Exactly what Kidd first wrote is what makes a man attractive. Then, interestingly enough, once the girl decides - or rather realizes consciously - that this man is attractive due to these foundational traits being in place, all of a sudden
everything he says is funny....even when it's not.
To a imperceptive onlooker, they might deduce "oh, she slept with him -> She laughs at what he says a lot -> He must be funny -> I need to be funny to get laid
Even the girl will rationalize, "I just like him so much, I don't know what it is, he's just so funny and fun, I don't know, there's just something"
When in reality there are so many unseens going on below the surface.
(Same mistaken rationale can be applied to edge - "oh, he has tatoos", even leadership)
The following, along with original reply is excellent, EXCELLENT - puts exactly into words something very hard to describe for me
Because your three 'traits' are dependent on my two traits being in place. If a man is needy and insecure, no amount of humor, edge or leadership ability will be able to save him. The only two that are universal traits that women find attractive are confidence and indifference...the former they are aware of ...the latter they are not. This is the reason ehy you werent able to see indifference...its something you feel, not see. Women cant even discern it...its just something that they REACT to...see?
It's the conscious/subconscious one-two punch knock out combo. Grinus' list, while expounding the main idea, once distilled still leaves you with these two traits.
Hope this helps...and remember...less answering, more questioning.