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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:04 pm 
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Karen Straughan takes on Jordan Peterson. Gotta love this woman!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faeT4fIFAcg


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:46 am 
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To be fair, he did change his hard stance after this.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:53 am 
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Wasn't he harsh on MGTOW?

I think Peterson is intentionally dishonest in a lot of instances. If you observe him closely, you can see that he's never solved his own issues. I would compare him to Rion Williams if any of you were around on the forum back in the old days.

He tweeted that Judge Kavanagh should step down if appointed. You've got feminism, porn, and endless hedonism getting almost all young men completely lost and defeated. Then you've got Peterson picking off any of the stragglers looking for answers. Despicable. He compromised his one true saying, that you should speak the truth to power and not bow to the mob. He did it because he was being scouted by CAA (acting agency) and wants more than the million dollars a month he is currently getting.

But to be fair I happen to agree with his stance on MGTOW. Choosing to be married and having kids is a valid choice, but running from the fight is cowardly.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:34 pm 
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Altair wrote: *
Wasn't he harsh on MGTOW?
I meant: He did soften his hard stance... gave a sort of an apology.

He was asked: do you have any regrets (or something).
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I think Peterson is intentionally dishonest in a lot of instances....
All the other stuff... gotta admit, I haven't looked into him closely enough to have a solid view-point.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:21 pm 
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<edited> wrote:
Both of you make valuable points..

What works for us (me, you) does not necessarily work for others. What works for others does not necessarily work for us.

Some parts may work for you, some may not, some may clash with you. It does not have to be considered as a whole

Part of the take what is useful and discard what is not, is determining what is useful or what works for me. Not anyone else, me.

Why I do something and what benefits doing it gives me is part of that process.
I have found if you look hard enough you can find faults in any and all teachers. It is more useful to see what they have to teach YOU and how it applies to you, rather than trying to find fault with them. Discard what is not applicable or useful.

Would you discard a teacher with some faults, and their knowledge in other areas, or would you listen to see if there are some valid points and then consider the whole.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:47 pm 
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https://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtop ... 643#p46643
<edited> wrote:
Both of you make valuable points..

What works for us (me, you) does not necessarily work for others. What works for others does not necessarily work for us.

Some parts may work for you, some may not, some may clash with you. It does not have to be considered as a whole

Part of the take what is useful and discard what is not, is determining what is useful or what works for me. Not anyone else, me.

Why I do something and what benefits doing it gives me is part of that process.
I have found if you look hard enough you can find faults in any and all teachers. It is more useful to see what they have to teach YOU and how it applies to you, rather than trying to find fault with them. Discard what is not applicable or useful.

Would you discard a teacher with some faults, and their knowledge in other areas, or would you listen to see if there are some valid points and then consider the whole.
This is simple. ^^
Bruce Lee — 'Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own.'

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:16 pm 
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李小龍 was misquoted a lot.
What he meant was simplify. More accurately; don't escape the process.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:42 pm 
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This is actually a part of the Process, keep marching Braather.

Stage 1:
Finding faults in others.
" [I/me] will change the World"

G ----->

Stage 3:
Finding faults in oneself. "I am Not Kind, and no one else is Terrible".
"O'h give me this Blessing... take away this [I/me] & let "me" [now: YOU] Serve the Creation"

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You will get there, see you on the other side :)

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