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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:15 pm 
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Here is something I talked about with David H. via email:

We have two sides in our sexuality:
the side that wants to connect with a woman naturaly (connect with the shakati energy) and have sex as a byproduct of the great connection and synergy with the shakati.
And the 'animal instinct' who sees a woman and thinks about what we would love do to her (the side who just wants to bang.....-'animal instinct'). We have that side in us weather we want to accept it or not.....

So, there is the old saying: 'what you resist persists'. When I was resisting that side in me
I was really horny and wanted to bang more. But once I stopped resisting it, it no longer had any power over me. So if I see a woman and I think about how much I'd love to 'do her' and I don't try to resist it-it goes away by itself.

However, I don't want to nurture that side. I'm not going to resist it or pretend it isn't there but I would rather nurture the more pure side of finding one woman in which I have good connection with and have sex with her as a byproduct of our intimate relationship. :)

And why?
not because of religion or feeling bad about sex but because I believe that sexual energy is a very powerful force and should not be wasted on random women.
I think that by spending your 'life force' on women in which you don't have real connection with will hurt your life force or drain some of your life energy.

I can't prove it of course but this is just how I feel....

I think that the old masters who understood the laws of the universe knew this and that's why religions talks about not spreading your sperm for nothing.

It's true that the way religion is scaring people today and making them feel shame about sex is all wrong. But there are no masters today like Jesus who can really explain why the rules of religion are like this and what is the idea behind it......

Sex is something that is supposed to be between you and the woman- the fact that in the social reality it's all over the place doesn't mean it's in coordinate with the universal laws.... 8-)

That's what I feel anyway and why I'll use my sexual energy on a woman in which I have real connection and synergy with.

I'd love to hear your thought guys..... ;)

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:35 pm 
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One more thing:

the difference between humans and animals is that animals act purely on their animal
instinct when it comes to sex. But within humans sex can be a more spiritual experience
and thus we have the choice animals don't have- do we want to use our life force on nothing
or use it in a more spiritual\energetic way.....

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:26 pm 
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Sex and spirtuality...ah you gotta love Tantra. Good call on not resisting your urges. Why should you? You should love and accept the fact that you are a sexual beast, and know that women love and respect that about you too. Every other guy is pretending they dont want to get laid while desperately yearning for it, while some people are quite open about the fact that they are very bad boys and yet they dont need it as much as your average chode in reality. I believe the same as you that when you accept something and release it, you gain immediate relief. You have seen with your own eyes the ridiculous behavior of guys who never do get that urge conquered. Let's say like 90% of the guys in America, haha.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:38 am 
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TheModernLibertine wrote:
I believe the same as you that when you accept something and release it, you gain immediate relief.
This

it applies to all areas of your thoughts and emotions.

A message that has been surfacing more and more in this forum and is VERY TRUE!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:52 pm 
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Well, it's only been said for thousands of years. I guess it's finally starting to sink in. Good for us. At that point everything that you DO becomes pretty much for your own amusement. When you do everything for your own amusement, I guarantee you that everyone will want to be around you because everyone wants to be like that and the most ridiculous things in the world will start happening to you.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:14 am 
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TheModernLibertine wrote:
Well, it's only been said for thousands of years. I guess it's finally starting to sink in. Good for us. At that point everything that you DO becomes pretty much for your own amusement. When you do everything for your own amusement, I guarantee you that everyone will want to be around you because everyone wants to be like that and the most ridiculous things in the world will start happening to you.
QFT. Even though I'm still realizing this, it's true.

You can't do something for amusement if you seek it out in your mind, or you're thinking about how to get better at it, etc, etc. If it's done for fun, you're not taking it seriously :D

BTW, welcome to the board TML. I've read a few of your posts and I like what you say.


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Thanks Midnight. Shay invited me here. I'm glad I came. We'll all have some fascinating conversations I'm sure.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:03 pm 
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There's this guilt we've been instilled with about being sexual, fear comes with that and this idea that women don't wanna fuck and men are pigs for wanting to, but the irony is they want it more than we do, when I dwell on this system I just think it's really fucked up.

Having that guilt before have any kind of sexual experience makes you afraid to communicate sexually, not only that but you don't even have a concept of what that is, whilst countless opportunities pass you by.

It's akin to the whole 'born a sinner' thing, unwarranted guilt.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:48 pm 
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create wrote:
There's this guilt we've been instilled with about being sexual, fear comes with that and this idea that women don't wanna fuck and men are pigs for wanting to, but the irony is they want it more than we do, when I dwell on this system I just think it's really fucked up.

Having that guilt before have any kind of sexual experience makes you afraid to communicate sexually, not only that but you don't even have a concept of what that is, whilst countless opportunities pass you by.

It's akin to the whole 'born a sinner' thing, unwarranted guilt.
same goes for the myth that women are nicer and more honest than men - just because they are women.
There is this myth in society that the guys are evil and the women are angels.
Such bullshit and yet most guys (including myself in the past) fall for it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:43 am 
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It's cool dude, I try not to dwell on that shit anymore.

Since I've used my will power to successfully quit porn and 'spending quality time with myself' I feel stronger to combat my psychological barriers, strange thing is I don't feel as horny anymore and I've been able to block out fantasies when I'm talking to a women.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:13 pm 
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I'm kind of experimenting with a new idea recently.

If I see a woman and I start feeling horny I just enjoy/accept the way I feel and then let it go. I don't dwell on it anymore. I don't beat myself up or think that I'm weird and creepy.

Or sometimes I even use it to empower me. Like if a woman has a cute butt, I think wow, she must work out and be really dedicated to being healthy, if I get to the gym and workout then women will look at my butt and think it's cute. :-)


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:36 pm 
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I think something similar. When I see a woman, I like. I will say to myself or out loud "Wow, what a cutie." or "Wow, what a goddess." I am very grateful that there is such beauty on this earth.

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Something I am curious about is whether all animals have yin yang energy. Has anyone ever seen any studies on this? While it is true that animals have the "animal" side to their sexuality, if they only have that does it mean no polarity and thus no ATTRACTION during mating? Theoretically this would mean animals ONLY see a female and just go for it and she accepts, or in some cases she is just overwhelmed by the male's aggression (ie: ever seen sharks mate?). As we all know depending on the animal, there are some pretty bizarre mating dances out there. Mating dances clearly fall under social. :D Is there shakti involved at some or all levels though? (Is it universal?) Does it only come through the eyes?

In thinking this through, the main difference noted in the earlier post about humans having a logical mind therefore differentiating themselves from animals is solid. However, to pinpoint it more it appears to be at very instinctual, logical, and social levels in humans. Due to the nature of instinct, animals generally still appear to use their minds (males and females) in choosing mates, but only at the instinctual and social levels (said mating dances), not at the logical level. Technically, animals are not free of the social matrix either, but doesn't appear to be logical, rather seems to be in their DNA as a result of evolution over thousands of years. How many Neos do you think there are in the animal kingdom? I think this is the point where we can REALLY see more clearly the difference Shay mentions, because wild animals are just that WILD. There's no justice system to deter rapes from ocurring unfortunately. The thing that's pretty fascinating is that depending upon the species, there is still so many dynamic that go into mate selection, all apparently driven by the need for the family to survive into the next generation.


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