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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:29 pm 
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thanks to you peregrinus, i'm been doing this since you post it for the first time,it is hard and take time but it helps me a lot.

you talk about giving space and that women love to fill space, and i read this post from ozbuckley, i don't know if it is related to your concept, coud you extend a little about this subject?


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<<If you see a beautiful woman and having thoughts about getting physical with her does not mean that 'you lose' and she wins.
As men we are kind of hardwired to have that reaction from time to time. You don't need to fight it or try to suppress it with natural grounding.

Once you accept it and don't try to fight it - it no longer has power over you and won't be a big deal in your interaction.
It's that or moving to Iran where all women wear veils and are covered from head to toes (which I'm not sure will make the lust disappear either...)>>

Exactly. This is Feminine energy ENERGIZING YOU! Now most of the time this energy goes straight to the genitals or the mind. Genitals will = erection. The Mind will = lusty thoughts, imagination, etc. Both are ok. But even experiment with breathing this energy through and around you. Let it energize you.

Woman want to be seen! Men are the see-er. Woman want to be taken. They want to fill up with a mans presence. This is our gift.

They want to fill up a mans presence... his space. Women love filling up an empty shelf with little knick-knacks. They want to fill the atmosphere will laughter... a mans humor is a gift. They want to fill up their desires and wants... the mans ability to create the situation to do this... a man must LEAD. Not control everything and every moment but to ultimately be the one steering. It can only happen if he is in control/congruence with himself.

Being able to see a woman more beautiful than she actually may see herself is a masculine gift. Feeling the energy run through you when you feel that attraction is natural!! healthy!

Be a man with INTENT! ..and at the same time to be totally UNATTACHED TO THE OUTCOME!

THen you become a man who is NOT AFRAID to show his INTENT and live openly because he is grounded in his own power.

If the girl tells him to fuck off and rejects him, well its probably her little crazy way of testing, but if it happens then its just seen as 'amusing'... because there are SO MANY WOMEN out there.

ABUNDANCE. ABUNDANCE. ABUNDANCE.

It's like the story of the person who was afraid of losing their breath that they held on to it. But when they let it go they realized it would come back. The abundance of oxygen for us to breathe is always there... and its free. So is the energy supplied from and with women.

Light up there hearts.

Abundance.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:01 pm 
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Wow, this is good in theory I guess in practice you have to be vulnerable all the way, by not surrender all you masculine energy, embrace it and enjoy her as human in the moment. I would be honest with you all, it's a bit dificult from a point of view of a guy.

Listen to this song of Erykah Badu - Orange Moon, (search the song number 103 in the playlist), I guess is something described from the perspective of the woman. It may sound corny for some of you, but I think It's beautiful how she make the metaphore of the sun (man) and she's the moon (reflecting the light of the sun), how naturally should be always. It's the effect we should cause in every sane woman we meet, and this will be a better world.

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waiting for peregrinus :|


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you talk about giving space and that women love to fill space, and i read this post from ozbuckley, i don't know if it is related to your concept, coud you extend a little about this subject?
I have written a fair bit on this forum about space, it is peppered around my posts.
Physical space, emotional space, imaginary space, all kinds of space.

Picking from the post you highlighted by oz:
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They want to fill up a mans presence... his space.
You have to have 'space' in your presence, else there is nothing to fill.
Creating space within yourself is important, if you have no space then what is there for them to fill.
It does not have to be all space.. Just some.
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Women love filling up an empty shelf with little knick-knacks.
Ever notice how men who live alone have houses that are quite sparse.
Women who live alone or with a man, the place is full of stuff. They love to fill physical space with stuff. This stuff can just be for the sake of it, it can also help trigger their memories and emotions - it is like they fill the place with triggers for their emotions.

Give them an empty shelf and they will find something to put on it.. Give them an empty room and they will come up with a plan for it.

Most men do not do that, they have what they need.
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They want to fill the atmosphere will laughter... a mans humor is a gift.
This comes along with allowing them to laugh, supplying the humor - not laughing yourself first, letting them give into the laughter and then sometimes joining in and sometimes not.

The space is the space for them to laugh and enjoy it, you create the tension with your humour then give them the space to release it by laughing. This release both relaxes them and gives them a few moments of peace, enjoyment and fun :)

It also switches off their heads, for which they will thank you at some point.
This in my view is what most women are really after, to be in the moment with their heads switched off. Being really present with a man.
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They want to fill up their desires and wants... the mans ability to create the situation to do this...

If you fill the space with your wants and desires, where is the space for theirs?
If you are all over them, where is the space for them to express their desire?

It is not a competition, it is like a two man saw.. One person takes their turn then the other. While one person takes their turn the other gives them the space to really take their turn without interfering or jumping in. Then things will flow. Both have to work together or the wood does not get cut.

Give them the space, do not fill it with you desires and theirs will come bubbling to the surface. This is not to say deny your desires or repress them, exercise control within yourself to have them but not let them spill everywhere.. They will see and feel this. Not fighting against yourself and not giving in to yourself.
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a man must LEAD.
Not control everything and every moment but to ultimately be the one steering. It can only happen if he is in control/congruence with himself.
Very true... You can steer things without having an iron grip of control on the situation. In a sense you have to relax and let go, while still having a goal in mind, free to flow and change it as the situation requires.

Like a sailor, he knows which port he is aiming at, the weather on the journey may take him out of his way and need course corrections - he will still end up at his destination at some point. He knows fighting the wind is pointless, go with it and then turn when you can, maybe make a detour. It can be corrected later on. Patience and persistence without being tense and overly controlling about it.
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If the girl tells him to fuck off and rejects him, well its probably her little crazy way of testing, but if it happens then its just seen as 'amusing'...
HAHAHA!

I purposefully only took the first part of this, because this is the part I see as being relevant.. Not all the abundance stuff.

It is a little girl playing, which is amusing. Ever notice how they try to offend and push you away when they do not really want that, to see your reaction and how you deal with it. I see it not as them telling you to fuck off etc, they are more concentrating on how you react to it and deal with it, they are weighing you up.

Can they control you emotionally or not? That is the real question they are asking.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:55 pm 
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that makes a lot of sense to me, thanks for the explanation

i was thinking about this too
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This in my view is what most women are really after, to be in the moment with their heads switched off. Being really present with a man.


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The Space-to-Product Ratio Effect: How Interstitial Space Influences Product Aesthetic Appeal, Store Perceptions, and Product Preference
Julio Sevilla, Claudia Townsend
First Published October 1, 2016
https://doi.org/10.1509/jmr.13.0601

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The authors identify and examine the effect of space-to-product ratio on consumer response; very generally, consumers perceive products as more valuable when more space is devoted to their display. In both lab and field studies, the authors find that this phenomenon influences total sales, purchase likelihood, and even perceived product experience (taste perceptions). More interstitial space increases perceptions of individual products as more aesthetically pleasing and the store as more prestigious. The authors find these effects across a variety of product categories and rule out a number of competing alternative explanations that are based on perceptions of product popularity, scarcity, assortment search difficulty, and messiness.

https://tips.ariyh.com/p/space-out-products
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Give your products space
The space-to-product ratio effect: use more empty space between products on display to increase their perceived value and beauty. In one of the experiments sales increased 98%.

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What came to mind was the first apple stores..

https://9to5mac.com/2021/05/19/20-years ... d-reality/

an exercise in the above imho

alternative link for article (no need to join) : https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... Preference

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