| peregrinus wrote: |
I think one of the problems is that people are being influenced too much by the marketing of the lesson. I have not seen the natural game seminar, so have not been influenced by how much he 'sold' the idea or promises of results.
I merely tried watching the videos, not sure of what I was meant to see or what 'results' were meant to happen. This more than likely affects how I view the whole process and my expectations when I was doing it.
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A few of the teachers I think most fondly of admitted at some point that they learned something from me. Some did not because they were not open to the lessons. We all have something to teach and other things to learn from people.
Do not fall into the mistake of confusing the teacher and the lesson, or identifying the teacher with the lesson.
Many great teachers in history were very flawed and imperfect characters.
Does this mean the lesson is flawed and imperfect?
I see men having their perceptions changed for the better by natural grounding, hence I think the lesson has merit. How much I cannot say, it will not give you all the answers, nothing will, there is no magic pill, there are a series of pills each of which bring you closer.
I think you just explained it perfectly I merely tried watching the videos, not sure of what I was meant to see or what 'results' were meant to happen. This more than likely affects how I view the whole process and my expectations when I was doing it.
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A few of the teachers I think most fondly of admitted at some point that they learned something from me. Some did not because they were not open to the lessons. We all have something to teach and other things to learn from people.
Do not fall into the mistake of confusing the teacher and the lesson, or identifying the teacher with the lesson.
Many great teachers in history were very flawed and imperfect characters.
Does this mean the lesson is flawed and imperfect?
I see men having their perceptions changed for the better by natural grounding, hence I think the lesson has merit. How much I cannot say, it will not give you all the answers, nothing will, there is no magic pill, there are a series of pills each of which bring you closer.
Now that I think about it, a lot of guys that I talked to that were doing natural grounding never saw any of Rion's programs and thus were not effected by the marketing (they were not expecting the crazy results Rion talks about in his program so they were less disappointed), and like you said:
"there is no magic pill, there are a series of pills each of which bring you closer"
And I will also add that we are all different and what works for one guy will not necessarily work for everyone. That's why when Rion said on the program that Natural grounding will do this and that for everyone- is just ego.
He thought that if it did this and that for him, it will do the same for everyone (he forgot that people are at different levels and that we all have different personality,traits and style....)
) said, this shit works at such a tiny microscopic level. Nothing can be faked. It takes a leap of faith, and it is well worth it.
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). The fiery Phoenix that ermerged from the carcass that was formerly somewhat of a sucker for women and their charms is the end product of YEARS of unlearning what society had been force feeding me since birth.