Cory and David X are my dudes right now! They both have very similar frames and beliefs, though there are differences.

I agree with Create. I love him too

Altough there's no NG in his teachings, the whole message is the right one.

And you actually can feel his energy very well. In the job interview part he is kind of closed off but as he reveals the metaphor he suddenly opens and the energy flows and the whole ambiente changes.

Great! Thanks for linking.

Yea you can see he is very grounded even though he doesn't do NG.

I think he grounds himself with affirmations........

man, David X is so grounded it's scary (in a good way ). And he doesn't even do natural grounding.....

I see a pattern here based on a truth I've realized for myself.

That Natural Grounding is just one piece of a whole and maybe, natural grounding is not just the traditional 'Palmy-watching' but also every other element of personal growth.

Well grounding in itself is a tool, and yes it doesn't only encompass watching Asian music videos. You can ground to girls in real life, yourself, anything really. All it does it help you become grounded in your own reality and return to what you truly are.

And shay is right in the fact that NG and RELM do not give you the crazy results. Only the shift in yourself that is a result of doing those things does.

I understand where you're coming from, shay.

Kindred and Marcus are definitely the most famous, but it's not like nobody else has had success from it. Many people have told me that they don't talk much about what happens with women in their life because they believe it should be between them and the woman, and I can respect that. I'm sure some of the members on RELM feel the same.

And you're right, there's not set way to realize the shift, but doing NG alone and having a conscious shift in your mindset is a winning combination. Of course, there are many other things you can do as well, but grounding and living your life as fulfilled as you can all the time is a complete system. All of us are moving towards this shift (living a fulfilled life) whether we realize it or not.

And yes, coaching prices are rediculous. I think coaching at that price from ANYONE isn't necessary at all to your self-growth. Sure it might convince you, but you can do that all on your own, and $3000 cheaper.

I'll bet you that your expectations are the cause for the lack of success [with NG]

Everyone can sense when you want something! It's a subconscious awareness. If you want something, anything from people to satisfy the ego, they pick up on it and they know.

For the past week things have been happening since i've realigned myself with this concept that everyone is born with.

I'm sorry if that seemed a bit forceful, I don't want to impose anything. I truly believe in this concept though

And then we all learned that Rion's "success with women" was not a result of natural grounding after all!

This is irrelevant, totally and utterly in my view. As is anyone elses success due to grounding.

Natural grounding is a process to achieve something. The aim in my view is not success, it is clearing away the dirt from your view of the world and women.

It is to free you from the societal conditioning and distorted images presented in the media.

To me, personally, that is the goal of grounding.

That WILL have side effects, women will notice that you are not viewing them the same way as everyone else. You will therefore seem to be behaving differently around them on a real core level, not from pretending but from a position of congruence and authenticity. This DOES peak their curiosity when around you, this WILL help your interactions.

On so many levels, it is quite mad. The gifts will only be given up to you once you stop seeking them.