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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:13 am 
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Well realistically one has to give at least 1% more of what she needs than the other, but hypothetically I guess if 2 guys were giving the same percentage of emotional needs and one was rich then she'd probably go for the rich one.

I tend to get into black and white thinking myself when I come to conclusions about women, then I see behavior from this girl that contradicts the conclusions I come to, so I start thinking maybe some of them aren't completely shit...

After all the shit I've had to deal with from them I'd rather have a 'nice' average looking girl who makes an effort rather than a 'hot' bitchy one who'd take all measures to break me down.

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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
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Rdk, I appreciate your consctructive criticism but to be fair you came to a retarded conclusion about me in your first reply.

I read your conversation a few times, what's your point?.

6 degrees of seperation is when someone claims to have a connection to you through people they know, since I don't talk to those women I wouldn't know them personally, so how else would they claim to have a connection to me other than maybe through someone we know in common somewhere down the line?. I'm saying that's as close as they'll ever get.

I've already decided that I'm never going to get married, I've seen the damage it does to peoples' lives.

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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:24 am 
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Sure, environmental factors plays a HUGE roll as well, who she has choice with dictates a lot!
^^Man I got to tell you something

I have a friend who is now in a two months vacation at the Ukraine. This dude is not a symp but I would say much less 'alpha' than me (I don't like to use this term but I mean- he doesn't know half of what I know about women).
Also my front and clout is better than his (not saying this to brag just pointing this out....)

anyway: he tells me it's heaven over there. Most women are Hot, the ratio is around 3 women to 1 man And most Men in the Ukraine are not high quality Men (that's what the girls over there say).
Also, since the women over there want to escape that place and know that my friend is not from there-that gives him more social value.

He got more dates there in one week than he did here (in my country) in 6 months. Also, the girls he went out with here were avrage looking (he had a hard time getting a date with a 7 here), over there he easily dates 9's. 8-)

He sent me pictures to prove it...

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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:28 am 
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Alchemist wrote:
I've already decided that I'm never going to get married, I've seen the damage it does to peoples' lives.
@Alchemist
not all women are shit so why decide you will never marry?

I know most women are bad marriege material but not all of them (I know the good ones are rare but they are out there)

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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:41 am 
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Sniper wrote:
@Alchemist
not all women are shit so why decide you will never marry?

I know most women are bad marriege material but not all of them (I know the good ones are rare but they are out there)
I said there are some women who are not completely shit, there's shit aspects in all of them even if it's minimal, because noone is perfect

Marriage, as Rdk stated, would put me in a position where I'm obligated to pay for shit, I don't agree with the relationship part though since there's no legal obligation to pay for anything there, she can't make me do anything.

Growing up witnessing shitty marriages probably had an effect on my view, and when I think about it, it seems like a waste of money and time, completely pointless, it makes no logical sense.

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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:17 am 
rkd1990 wrote:
I remember a conversation with my uncle.

Me: Man these bitches are all the same.
Uncle: Yeah, they're all same, but they're really not all the same.
Me: True there is something that makes every female different from the next one.
Uncle: Yeah, you have to find out what it is because its important.
Me: Yeah but taking care of all the similarities between women comes first.
Uncle: Once you have that down. You'll see and know how to deal with the differences.
Uncle: You have to know the forest before you can see the trees.
You're not reading closely.

The context is that the slight differences in women mean a lot about how to work and communicate with them.

That's why I went so hard on you about the gold digger shit.

How did doctors come to understand the human body and its organs better? It was through comparative anatomy.

Every vertebrate organism has very similar structure for internal plumbing. Lungs or gills, esophagus, stomach or stomachs, intestines etc.

It is only through knowing this features that a doctor can discern why the appendix is removable. It's a vestige from earlier human organs that is no longer important because we cook food.

You have to understand animals to understand people just like you have to understand women to see gold diggers, hood rats, sluts, prostitutes, strippers, escorts, bartenders, nurses, and cocktail waitresses.

For example, I have a girl I just met yesterday, and I have a girl that I met a few weeks ago that I posted about on here.

The girl I just met yesterday says that she has fun fucking, is conservative and isn't interested in women, but she does watch lesbian and homosexual porn.

My girl from a few weeks ago has fun fucking, acts conservative in sex, and she too watches homosexual and lesbian porn. She also says that she is not interested in women, but she likes watching women.

What I know about my girl from a few weeks ago is that she is suppressing desires. She told me two nights ago that she has never had an orgasm before and that none of the guys she's been with who thought they were good in bed could tell that she was faking. She told me no guy has ever cared about whether she got off. She told me this because I checked her bullshit and told her I would stop fucking her and being around her if she ever lied to me again about having an orgasm. I said this because I was perturbed that she stopped me. She told me she likes watching homosexual and lesbian porn because she's curious. She told me when we first fucked that she hadn't had sex in two months and was masturbating everyday.

What can similar conclusions can I draw to both females?

A. Both girls are curious and probably bisexual. I can likely have a threesome with both of them once they get acquainted with each other.

B. Both girls curiosity is most likely driven from sexual inadequacy and/or unsatisfying sex because they like lesbian porn and probably believe women can satisfy them better so they fetishize the female body.

What differences can I draw from both females?

A. The recent female may just be acting like she is conservative in sex because she hasn't had the right guy to bring her out of it, while the female I've known for a while generally has conservative views and acts in an according manner.

B. They may have different libidos.

C. I may be able to convince the most recent female to get women for me because she likes watching women and has a soft demeanor. This tactic would not go over so well with older female not only because she is very selfish with having me and my time, but her sexual makeup is different enough to likely make her act too aggressive in collecting females for me.

Even though I know very little about the first girl's sexual makeup, I can draw some important conclusions. My avenue for the conclusions came from my experiences with the earlier female. Up until now, I have not met females who share these similarities. I could post more meaningful similarities and differences, but these get my point across. If I had not looked at these two as a group of women first I would not be able to categorize them well. This first and most recent female is a freak. The female I've known for a while is an undercover freak. These two distinctions have different approaches. With a little effort I can peel the girl I've known for a while from the undercover freak status, while the first girl needs very little encouragement or effort at all.

It just so happens that most girls are undercover freaks and they know it. Tell the next female you talk to in passing conversation that she sounds like an undercover freak and watch how she laughs the tension off. Seeing the real freaks takes a keen eye, and it is very worthwhile.


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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:50 am 
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Ok, I get where you're coming from, so your comparisons are more narrow and precise as mine are wider and less accurate, I don't have much sexual experience so I can only go off what I've seen myself, and I don't go out trying to get girls either, I only go with girls that initiate (like this one did) cuz then I know for sure, I've fucked up horribly in the past going for women that I thought were interested, it's rare that girls initiate but my chances are better when I don't try anything and they come to me of their own volition, then I can feel comfortable enough to help things go along.
rkd1990 wrote:
It just so happens that most girls are undercover freaks and they know it. Tell the next female you talk to in passing conversation that she sounds like an undercover freak and watch how she laughs the tension off. Seeing the real freaks takes a keen eye, and it is very worthwhile.
That much I do know, I'll see if I can slip that in somewhere in the conversation if sexual stuff comes up.

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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:05 pm 
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Sniper wrote:
ManniJa wrote:
Sure, environmental factors plays a HUGE roll as well, who she has choice with dictates a lot!
^^Man I got to tell you something

I have a friend who is now in a two months vacation at the Ukraine. This dude is not a symp but I would say much less 'alpha' than me (I don't like to use this term but I mean- he doesn't know half of what I know about women).
Also my front and clout is better than his (not saying this to brag just pointing this out....)

anyway: he tells me it's heaven over there. Most women are Hot, the ratio is around 3 women to 1 man And most Men in the Ukraine are not high quality Men (that's what the girls over there say).
Also, since the women over there want to escape that place and know that my friend is not from there-that gives him more social value.

He got more dates there in one week than he did here (in my country) in 6 months. Also, the girls he went out with here were average looking (he had a hard time getting a date with a 7 here), over there he easily dates 9's. 8-)

He sent me pictures to prove it...

Oh dude, the eastern bloc is crazy. I have a friend who just got back from Prague and he said the girl to guy ratio is like 2:1, their ugly girls are equivalent to our cute girls in Canada and when you meet them and they greet you it's with a kiss on the lips. I'm definitely visiting that fuck'n place.

To touch more upon what Kidd said about everybody loving a winner. If you went to a pussycat dolls concert and you went backstage after and the whole group was jock'n you hard, you wouldn't pick the 3rd from the back to go home with, you'd choose the lead singer...it's universal.

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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:24 pm 
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ManniJa wrote:
Oh dude, the eastern bloc is crazy. I have a friend who just got back from Prague and he said the girl to guy ratio is like 2:1, their ugly girls are equivalent to our cute girls in Canada and when you meet them and they greet you it's with a kiss on the lips. I'm definitely visiting that fuck'n place.
Yea man, Rion knows that very well. So he made up all that shit about 'Palmy energy' to make money so he could run away from cold\fat American women to those places. ;)

Did you also know Rick H. (a good friend of Brent who runs bootcamps with him sometimes) is now living in Romania?

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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:40 pm 
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ManniJa wrote:
Oh dude, the eastern bloc is crazy. I have a friend who just got back from Prague and he said the girl to guy ratio is like 2:1, their ugly girls are equivalent to our cute girls in Canada and when you meet them and they greet you it's with a kiss on the lips. I'm definitely visiting that fuck'n place.

Yeah, they often say that czech (and slovak) girls are most beautiful.. I don't know about the kiss on the lips tho, never saw or heard about that :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:37 pm 
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fufe wrote:
ManniJa wrote:
Oh dude, the eastern bloc is crazy. I have a friend who just got back from Prague and he said the girl to guy ratio is like 2:1, their ugly girls are equivalent to our cute girls in Canada and when you meet them and they greet you it's with a kiss on the lips. I'm definitely visiting that fuck'n place.

Yeah, they often say that czech (and slovak) girls are most beautiful.. I don't know about the kiss on the lips tho, never saw or heard about that :lol:
My friend that went over was married so he couldn't do shit, what a waste, what hell lol

Sniper, that's not a bad idea...I literally think environmental factors is 95% of this shit.

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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:32 pm 
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Environmental factors do indeed play a huge role...like I said my fail safe was to move to Arizona if I never amounted to much lol (GREAT environ). But, also consider this...the tougher the environ, the more you have to rise to the occasion. Guys like Rion and company are pussy ass wimps...taking the easy route without even trying to conquer their natural habitat. If I had moved to greener pastures years ago, I KNOW I wouldnt be doing much of SHIT right now...because I wouldn't have to.

I was determined to rise above my environment (not initially, but then I had a change of heart)...or at least be competitive within it...and I am that now. This 'hostile' environment helped me to become the man I am today. :geek:

So fellas...let's quit bitchin' and start turning lemons to lemonade! :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:16 am 
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Alchemist wrote:
I've already decided that I'm never going to get married, I've seen the damage it does to peoples' lives.
I'll adapt, and am overcoming my enviornment. But I still trust no bitch. Marriage is like handing someone a loaded gun and saying don't rob me

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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:16 am 
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I can dig it, you don't really have to go through the motions of a marriage contract to have a family unit either, most people just believe it's mandatory.

I second Kidd, I live in one of the most competitive cities in the world, the competition is ruthless but there's always a way (jobwise).

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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:42 pm 
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I'm not against marriage however it has to be with the right girl & a prenuptial agreement :D
I would not marry a girl without a prenuptial agreement unless I find a rich girl 8-)

Edit:

it's funny but RSD's Owen Cook (Tyler) married a girl from Mexico.
Hypnotica (Eric Von Sydow) married a girl from Bulgaria.
Adam Lyons married a gold digger who spends all his money

the above examples are bad marriage examples-
the girls got great deals- green card, money and etc...
while the guys - got much less value in return....

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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
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@rdk, there was some ego in my response so I do apologize if my reaction was strong, I still have remnants of black and white thinking in regards to this but I am making an effort to let it go.

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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:36 am 
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Alchemist wrote:
I can dig this but they won't be with me since I don't and won't associate with gold diggers, that's why I was wondering for a minute what they'd have to gain from me when my potential is realised, since I'll be keeping my distance from them, I think they could only stand to gain something from me by proxy at best, which would be through some sort of connection they have to someone I know etc. hence the 6 degrees of seperation.

Which would still be something I guess depending on my status at the time.
The illusion, that they will be able to talk you into spending all your money on them.

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Morpheus wrote:
The illusion, that they will be able to talk you into spending all your money on them.
That makes sense, I guess I'll see it when I'm in that position, the shock to the system when they realize that I'll never spend any money on them.

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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:59 pm 
Alchemist wrote:
@rdk, there was some ego in my response so I do apologize if my reaction was strong, I still have remnants of black and white thinking in regards to this but I am making an effort to let it go.
no prob.
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The illusion, that they will be able to talk you into spending all your money on them.
That makes sense, I guess I'll see it when I'm in that position, the shock to the system when they realize that I'll never spend any money on them.
Good starting point. There are certain times when you do want pay though. It's something that hasn't been talked about on the forum. You said something about 1% interest or something in a stalemate between two guys and the same girl.

Switch that shit to I'll pick up 1% of the tab on whatever she does for me. If a girl buys you a car, signs the title over to you, and takes you out to dinner, but she says she doesn't have cash to tip the waitress then bust out that loot and pick up the tip.

A less extreme example would be a girl buying you some shoes or taking you shopping, but the issue is that she doesn't have meter money.

I would pick up the meter tab depending on how upscale the shopping district/joint is. She'll get an earful is she's trying to pull this shit at Burberry, Gucci, Neman Marcus, or Lord and Taylor. I'm quick to pick up for Zegna, Dolce & Gabbana in some places, Hugo Boss, Versaci, Brioni, and any place off Saville Row in London.

If we're going to eat at Galatoire's in Louisiana then I might pick up the gas bill.

The point of the 1% rule is that she must be performing on a very high level to warrant your expenditure. You don't want the female to think you're cheap, but you want her to understand the dynamic you have.

The dynamic that we rarely talk about on the forum but very implicit in what we say is a balance: I let her handle the big shit, and I handle the little shit.

What I usually say to a female is, "I'll handle the big shit, and if you act right and show me you're cool I'll let you handle the little shit and if you're lucky and show some initiative I might let you handle the big shit."

Those aren't my exact words all the time because I personally package everything to a female, but it demonstrates the rule.


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 Post subject: Re: Look Deep
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:13 pm 
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1% rkd? Man that's HELLA staunch! :lol:

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