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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:26 pm 
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With this outrageous title, I want to highlight a porn video: Angela White & Manuel Ferrara – Angela 3, AGW/Girlfriends.

I'm guessing it's available everywhere (but no HD... AFAIK. Weird since it recorded last year)

There are even articles on how great this scene is (to be fair, it ALSO won the AVN Award 2018): https://nypost.com/2018/07/13/porn-will ... than-this/

It's a gonzo, so "no scenario".
BUUUUT!
Please watch it for the tension, the dialogues, Angela's attitude. She cries at the end it's so good. She even let record the 15 minutes at the end AFTER the scene where the just cuddle.

Her reaction on Twitter:
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Watch the most incredible scene I've ever done in ANGELA VOLUME THREE. My first creampie with @manuelferrara ❤️
In one of the answers:
Quote:
That scene deeply affected me (also no pun intended)
I had to put the sound at maximum because Manuel only whispers in her ears 90% of the time ^^

For admins, please tell me if it's inappropriate and I'll remove it :)

Some samples of conversation:
"Nobody fucks me like this"
"I forget everything when I'm with you"
"I love your skin on me"
"..."

I don't know what love is, but now I know what it looks like watching her.

PS: Fun addendum, he streams on twitch, and Angela has been twice "chatting" at his appartment. There is the same tension. You can easily find his Youtube channel for more...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:47 pm 
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I'm interested to see the comments on this one..

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GoldenBoy wrote: *
With this outrageous title, I want to highlight a porn video: Angela White & Manuel Ferrara – Angela 3, AGW/Girlfriends.

I'm guessing it's available everywhere (but no HD... AFAIK. Weird since it recorded last year)

There are even articles on how great this scene is (to be fair, it ALSO won the AVN Award 2018): https://nypost.com/2018/07/13/porn-will ... than-this/

It's a gonzo, so "no scenario".
BUUUUT!
Please watch it for the tension, the dialogues, Angela's attitude. She cries at the end it's so good. She even let record the 15 minutes at the end AFTER the scene where the just cuddle.

Her reaction on Twitter:
Quote:
Watch the most incredible scene I've ever done in ANGELA VOLUME THREE. My first creampie with @manuelferrara ❤️
In one of the answers:
Quote:
That scene deeply affected me (also no pun intended)
I had to put the sound at maximum because Manuel only whispers in her ears 90% of the time ^^

For admins, please tell me if it's inappropriate and I'll remove it :)

Some samples of conversation:
"Nobody fucks me like this"
"I forget everything when I'm with you"
"I love your skin on me"
"..."

I don't know what love is, but now I know what it looks like watching her.

PS: Fun addendum, he streams on twitch, and Angela has been twice "chatting" at his appartment. There is the same tension. You can easily find his Youtube channel for more...

I'm out.
Your comments caught my attention. Eventually, I may have to check this out.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:48 am 
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Why is porn free?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0bRjaw9Sxo

It's a long stream, but even just watching a few minutes starting at 17:30 would be eye opening.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:06 am 
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Okay, if you don't want to look at the full porn scene because it will make you into a weakling :), then at least you can just watch two people naked cuddling (so the end of the scene... ?)

I'm not sure I can post links like this, so link the two lines and replace the * into and o ...

https://www.p*rnhub.com/
view_video.php?viewkey=ph5a040be0e7cae

and start at 4:10 because otherwise you'll see some creampie and salad tossing ...

Again, if I'm going too far, please delete.

@Altair, I watched the 11 minutes video. Whilst I agree with most of it, I believe this has nothing to do with what I wanted to highlight. ^^
I might be wrong though :)

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:19 am 
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Porn actually helped me let go of quite a few issues

The "step-family" thing that seems to be everywhere now, that I don't get :?


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Okay, if you don't want to look at the full porn scene because it will make you into a weakling :), then at least you can just watch two people naked cuddling (so the end of the scene... ?)
Ironically, it will turn you into a weakling but only because you allow it to do so. Vice has the power that you give to it. By choosing to watch it you put yourself in submission to it. I am strong to the extent that I put myself in submission to what is virtuous and weak to the extent which I put myself into submission to what is wrong for my own self pleasure.

Besides, one of the foundational concepts of the forum is to not cuck and put yourself under the thumb of a women. How much worse is it to willingly watch another guy have sex with a women you find attractive?

Pornhub and Netflix amongst other companies don't even turn a profit. Netflix loses billions of dollars per year and I have no idea what Pornhub costs. Why is it that they are free? Aren't companies supposed to turn a profit? It's almost like they were created to enslave your mind as a part of the true matrix. The one we were truly all born into.

Additionally, a huge percentage of the women in those films are abused runaways that are reliving their trauma. Most of them die very young.
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Okay, if you don't want to look at the full porn scene because it will make you into a weakling :), then at least you can just watch two people naked cuddling (so the end of the scene... ?)

I'm not sure I can post links like this, so link the two lines and replace the * into and o ...

https://www.p*rnhub.com/
view_video.php?viewkey=ph5a040be0e7cae

and start at 4:10 because otherwise you'll see some creampie and salad tossing ...

Again, if I'm going too far, please delete.

@Altair, I watched the 11 minutes video. Whilst I agree with most of it, I believe this has nothing to do with what I wanted to highlight. ^^
I might be wrong though :)
No, but it does illustrate what I wanted to bring up. Porn is a loaded weapon you point at yourself. The reason that the step family thing is everywhere to answer your question fufe is that it's designed to dismantle the family unit and submit the population. It's lock step with feminism.

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Any [pimp] who believes a whore loves him shouldn't a fell outta his mammy's ass.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:54 pm 
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@Jared and Altair.
Interesting inputs. Didn't think of it that way. I'll ponder on it.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:33 pm 
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@Jared and Altair.
Interesting inputs. Didn't think of it that way. I'll ponder on it.
I will say I disagree with that quote.

Let me know what the conclusions of your pondering is :geek: . I like these sort of deep discussions.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:09 pm 
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Altair wrote: *
GoldenBoy wrote: *
@Jared and Altair.
Interesting inputs. Didn't think of it that way. I'll ponder on it.
I will say I disagree with that quote.

Let me know what the conclusions of your pondering is :geek: . I like these sort of deep discussions.
Well, here is my first jist (pun intended).

There was a reason I put it in Alpha Male and Make Sexuality.
Because you can SEE Manuel and Angela's attitudes.
And in porn, this is the ONLY scene where you'll find something like this (no faking, no forcing, just PURE, RAW sexuality).

I had not thought at all at where you would come from and all the debates around porn and the evil around it (Netflix nonewithstanding).

I would say everything is a subjugation if you want to go that road. Everything has the power that you give to it...

This "one scene" that I wanted to highlight, I consider different ("a unicorn" if you will) from millions of scenes that can be degrading for women, for men, or for both, and you attribute all the problems of the industry to it just like you would any other.

I'm pointing at a beautiful tree (again, my opinion) and you point back at the ugly forest.

But you prolly right. Let's disregard all the entertainment industry as one big matrix there to subjugate ourselves... Like you of all (as part of this forum) are unable to discern the diamond from the dirt...

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I don't want to fuck her, so there's that.

0 pts; not on my life path -kind of woman.
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abused runaways that are reliving their trauma
Yes.


Edit;

About cuddling. I don't let women do that bullshit too long.
Show's off quite quickly. I got places to be. There's next time
for her to have her 2 minutes :twisted: :twisted:

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GoldenBoy wrote: *
Altair wrote: *
GoldenBoy wrote: *
@Jared and Altair.
Interesting inputs. Didn't think of it that way. I'll ponder on it.
I will say I disagree with that quote.

Let me know what the conclusions of your pondering is :geek: . I like these sort of deep discussions.
Well, here is my first jist (pun intended).

There was a reason I put it in Alpha Male and Make Sexuality.
Because you can SEE Manuel and Angela's attitudes.
And in porn, this is the ONLY scene where you'll find something like this (no faking, no forcing, just PURE, RAW sexuality).

I had not thought at all at where you would come from and all the debates around porn and the evil around it (Netflix nonewithstanding).

I would say everything is a subjugation if you want to go that road. Everything has the power that you give to it...

This "one scene" that I wanted to highlight, I consider different ("a unicorn" if you will) from millions of scenes that can be degrading for women, for men, or for both, and you attribute all the problems of the industry to it just like you would any other.

I'm pointing at a beautiful tree (again, my opinion) and you point back at the ugly forest.

But you prolly right. Let's disregard all the entertainment industry as one big matrix there to subjugate ourselves... Like you of all (as part of this forum) are unable to discern the diamond from the dirt...
I'm not making a personal attack on you Goldenboy. I am just pointing out that there is no diamond to be found in the dirt of pornography. It's an epidemic, they cannot even study the effects of it on people because they cannot find a control group that hasn't watched it. It makes people's ween stop working if they watch it long enough, destroys the family unit, emasculates the men and makes it impossible for them to mount any serious resistance to the agenda being pushed in society.

Feminism and all of that stuff is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to understanding how deep the matrix truly goes. Look at how upside down the world is. Watching porn prevents you from making the deep dives you need to in order to find the truth and orientate yourself to what is coming.

I watched it until the beginning of this year just like basically everyone else. It's poison without exception.
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I don't want to fuck her, so there's that.

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abused runaways that are reliving their trauma
Yes.


Edit;

About cuddling. I don't let women do that bullshit too long.
Show's off quite quickly. I got places to be. There's next time
for her to have her 2 minutes :twisted: :twisted:
I no longer have a heart of stone. I would freely give away my love and attention, but I won't allow myself to be taken advantage of :geek:.

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Altair wrote: *

I'm not making a personal attack on you Goldenboy. I am just pointing out that there is no diamond to be found in the dirt of pornography.
Don't worry about personal attack dude :) None taken.
I would say I agree at the latter part, but disagree at the same time.
I don't consider this scene as pornography. It's ART. Like watching two people deeply in lust (corrected love for lust ;)) for each other. It's like watching a sex documentary (and just the audio is enough to get my initial point too, even though the visuals help to discern the complete submission of Angela White)
Manuel enables her to be completely submissive like she needs to be. He enables her to be her whole naked self.

I'll go as far as going it was a MOMENT (see Grinus's threads) for HER. She realized something on camera. It deeply affected her.
Altair wrote: *
It's an epidemic, they cannot even study the effects of it on people because they cannot find a control group that hasn't watched it. It makes people's ween stop working if they watch it long enough, destroys the family unit, emasculates the men and makes it impossible for them to mount any serious resistance to the agenda being pushed in society.
Well, for one, I was a huuuuge porn (even old movies with plots, and all other shit) watcher (but not so much to masturbate, just to fill boredom and time, like others would listen to music), and since I watched this vid last month (on my second screen, and not really watching the scene but more like listening to the flow), something really clicked, hence why I wanted to share it.

Just like Patrice O'Neal said about "2 girls 1 cup" : "This video saves lives" or something like this, about the fact that if you get rejected or just ignored, it's like "meh, two girls one cup". You don't have the decency to be a human being, but there's two beautiful women that would shit in a cup for 4 dollars... (like, you know people are capable of the worse things in something banal like human interactions, so you're not impacted by their shitty behavior)

Well, this vid has a same impact for porn. It made all the other scenes pale in comparison by showing the best things in "porn", and I hope it can lead to people think "shit I don't want to watch porn for the sex or jerk off, I want to watch that kind of REAL PURE RAW emotion (in that case lust).
Then, if they don't watch LESS porn, or stop, then it didn't have the effect for them than I hoped...
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Feminism and all of that stuff is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to understanding how deep the matrix truly goes. Look at how upside down the world is.
Well, I invite every feminist to watch this clip then. And then make some sense of it if they can... I've got no hopes that high though.

It was not at all an invitation to break "90 days no porn" or some other stuff.

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Watching porn prevents you from making the deep dives you need to in order to find the truth and orientate yourself to what is coming.
Mirror.

Also, MY fight is internal, not external.
If Porn were to have that deep an effect on my life, I would say that Porn would help me "find the truth and orientate myself to what is coming", by understanding my need of it.
Altair wrote: *
I watched it until the beginning of this year just like basically everyone else. It's poison without exception.
If I can quote Pat Cooper : "I watch porn and I dance to it", meaning I don't consider porn has big or negative impacts (well, anymore) on my life as I don't watch a lot of it, and I select it of the highest quality of life (like fresh organic products are better for your body than canned shit poison).

Altair wrote: *
Jared wrote: *
I don't want to fuck her, so there's that.

0 pts; not on my life path -kind of woman.



Yes.


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About cuddling. I don't let women do that bullshit too long.
Show's off quite quickly. I got places to be. There's next time
for her to have her 2 minutes :twisted: :twisted:
I no longer have a heart of stone. I would freely give away my love and attention, but I won't allow myself to be taken advantage of :geek:.
@Jared, why do you associate watching this video ("porn") with the obligation to watch some woman you want to fuck?
Do you really think I would post this video for people to crank one out ?

I would prefer people to watch this video than dozens of pseudo KPop stars that are supposed to "show the feminine side" :roll:
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I'm interested to see the comments on this one..
What's your take master ? :)

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Ahh ooh uuh

I draw the line at "uuh"

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The men she has in her life is the best she can get.
It's a fact. That goes for every woman. All lost men are lost men.

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Altair wrote: *


I no longer have a heart of stone. I would freely give away my love and attention, but I won't allow myself to be taken advantage of :geek:.

Sweet talking isn't my most fluent love language, there are other ways
to show / receive that. 8-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Five_Love_Languages

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Altair wrote:
I no longer have a heart of stone. I would freely give away my love and attention, but I won't allow myself to be taken advantage of :geek:.
I am in the same place at the moment. I have no problem loving people / caring for people. I just have to make sure that they don't take me for granted and take advantage of me. It feels like a balancing act on a tight rope sometimes...


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No one is an island unto themselves, any internal battle affects those around us because we are all connected.

Feminism is very low level and porn won't even help you overcome that. If you don't believe me you should do a look into the origins of feminism and who originally pushed it. It was done for economic purposes yes but it was also done for other reasons as well.

Sex is used to create life, it's like a circuit. Anything that channels the energy in that circuit for selfish reasons is bad.

Enough people (myself included) have gone down the road of hedonism and not speaking up about issues when they were small that now we're looking at complete collapse of society.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omjgpu0munw
Gary Wilson - Porn Science and Science Deniers

Guys spend some time and watch this man. He is the one started speaking out about the negative effects of porn. In this video he explains how porn industry can manipulate public opinion regarding pornography and the war waged against him by these people.

(especially after 34:45, he delves into this matter and exposes how they distort research according to their agenda by cherry-picking or basing their claims in badly organized studies)

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