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Author:  Star_Above [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:10 am ]
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This article was the reason I wrote the "Women don't like you for you post" a while back, I just finally found it in my email...
I got it off of Cory Skyy's forum when it still existed because he strongly reccomended reading it...enjoy!


Why Are Single Women Attracted to Jerks?

For the life of me I can't understand why single women are attracted to jerks. Maybe this article can explain why:
You and I must understand that women DON'T go deliberately looking for a jerk. Women are not "bad" people at all. Quite the opposite. But WOMEN ARE COMPLETELY CONTROLLED BY THIS ANCIENT MATING INSTINCT. Therefore, they have NO OTHER CHOICE but to go after ANY strong, dominant, untamable male. Or any male who can make her FEEL all those intense, uncontrollable feelings she lives for. The key to understanding women's strange behavior is "they have NO OTHER CHOICE" but to fall for these type of males.

And the jerk HAPPENS to be THAT TYPE of male. Or at least, the jerk has learned HOW TO PLAY that role. The nice guy IS NOT that type of male. The nice guy cannot even play that role. If a nice guy became strong and dominant and HARD TO GET, she will go BLINDLY after that nice guy. The proof that I am right is that EVERY TIME a nice guy starts ACTING like a jerk, HE IS SUDDENLY WANTED BY ALL THOSE WOMEN WHO USED TO IGNORE HIM BEFORE. Women don't really want jerks. They probably want a nice guy. But ... "what women -WANT" and "what women NEED" are two different things. And their Subconscious ''genetic" programming, that NEED to feel and feel and feel, will make women go uncontrollably after what they NEED, not what they want. And that is true of EVERY person, in any area of life. They will attract into their lives and/or will go toward what they subconsciously NEED, not what they think they want.

What a woman genetically NEEDS is the type of man who will trigger in her all those intense feelings and emotions. Why?. Because a female NEEDS to experience those uncontrollable feelings/emotions to surrender completely to him. Once she FEELS that way about him she will do anything and everything for/with him. Women are SUCKERS for those very intense emotions and feelings that they were "genetically" programmed to experience for a certain type of male, the dominant, strong one. They NEED to FEEL those feelings to surrender to him. It has a lot to do with Estrogen, the "feeling" hormone as opposed to testosterone, the "performance/achievement" hormone. While most men are born to be "doers" most females are "be-ers" or "feelers".

Women will love and go after ANY man who is able to "ignite" those feelings in them. Unfortunately, a "nice", sensitive, wimpy type of guy does not generate those feelings in women. A strong, dominant, hard-to-get! man DOES. And the jerk fits in this category. And the jerk knows how to "ignite" those intense feelings and emotions women are addicted to. A jerk and a hard-to-get man make her feel ... feel...feel ... crazy, excited, turned on. A "nice" guy makes her feel ... feel ... feel .... bored to death.

Even when women fall for a guy who is very handsome, they will leave him very quickly if they discover he is a nice guy who can be easily controlled by females. It happens all the time. And they will go after some not-so-handsome type, even ugly one, who is strong and dominant. Even married women will do the craziest things and go after THE guy who can "ignite" those feelings in them. What she loves are the feelings she FEELS. Not the guy! But in her mind, the guy and the feelings become inseparable. She loves the feelings. Therefore, she falls in love with the guy who can make her feel that way.

Now, it will be totally futile to try to explain to any woman that she doesn't really love guy A. But that she really loves THE WAY guy A makes her feel. She will tell you that you are crazy. But this is the truth. In a nutshell: Person A loves person B because of the way person B makes person A feel. More precisely, Person B satisfies the deepest VALUES that Person A needs satisfied to believe/know that she is in love with Person B.

Women were "genetically" programmed to be SUCKERS for intense feelings and emotions in order to surrender and mate.
The jerks and the hard-to-get guys DO "trigger" those intense, uncontrollable emotions she "genetically" loves. A nice guy does NOT.

ANY man who learns HOW to make her FEEL the way she was "genetically" programmed to FEEL, FEEL AND FEEL, will have her doing anything and everything he wants.
Remember that men are "doers". Women love feelings. They live to FEEL, FEEL AND FEEL.

If YOU can make her FEEL the way she wants to feel, she will LINK all those pleasurable, intense feelings with/to you. YOU will be satisfying her deepest, most treasured VALUES. Then, she will become ADDICTED to you. And you will make her fall in love with you.

Author:  Dr. Awesome [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:09 am ]
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That is REALLY an awesome text! thanks a lot for sharing. Very insightful, indeed.

Author:  Benjamin [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:37 pm ]
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Wow, absolutely fantastic.

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:15 pm ]
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That sums it but quite nicely. Great article indeed. 8-)

Author:  Sniper [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:05 pm ]
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great artical however:
Quote:
If YOU can make her FEEL the way she wants to feel, she will LINK all those pleasurable, intense feelings with/to you. YOU will be satisfying her deepest, most treasured VALUES. Then, she will become ADDICTED to you. And you will make her fall in love with you.
what's the more practical side of this? or in other words:
does this mean to treat women accordingly to how she treats you?
is that going to give her the 'emotional roller coaster'?

Edit: why do I ask this?
because the pua community are teaching ways to push women's emotional triggers:
like cold reading, story telling, push pull, etc...
but it's all fake bullshit and not real.

anyone?

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:47 pm ]
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Sniper wrote:
great artical however:
Quote:
If YOU can make her FEEL the way she wants to feel, she will LINK all those pleasurable, intense feelings with/to you. YOU will be satisfying her deepest, most treasured VALUES. Then, she will become ADDICTED to you. And you will make her fall in love with you.
what's the more practical side of this? or in other words:
does this mean to treat women accordingly to how she treats you?
is that going to give her the 'emotional roller coaster'?

Edit: why do I ask this?
because the pua community are teaching ways to push women's emotional triggers:
like cold reading, story telling, push pull, etc...
but it's all fake bullshit and not real.

anyone?
Yes, treating them accordingly will achieve the same effect, plus is genuine. I personally am nice to a woman at first and give them just enough rope to hang themselves...and trust me, they ALWAYS do. When they do, then I react accordingly, which is usually a straight up jerk/asshole cause that's what they got coming. This is doubly effective because not only are they getting that emotional roller coaster they crave, they know that they deserve it.

Like I always say, there is nothing wrong with being an asshole if they are asking you to be one. Just don't be an asshole for no damn reason. 8-)

Author:  rant [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:40 pm ]
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ManniJa wrote:

Even when women fall for a guy who is very handsome, they will leave him very quickly if they discover he is a nice guy who can be easily controlled by females
that was the story of my life, i don't know why iulian was so obsesed with this,if we talked alot about it and some of us consider themselves hansome but that's not the real key to be good with women, so he choses to give up believing that handsome guys will be allways a better choice to women

Author:  peregrinus [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:59 pm ]
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Nice article ManniJa, seems you are coming up with some very appropriate readings :)
The Kidd!! wrote:
Sniper wrote:
Quote:
If YOU can make her FEEL the way she wants to feel, she will LINK all those pleasurable, intense feelings with/to you. YOU will be satisfying her deepest, most treasured VALUES. Then, she will become ADDICTED to you. And you will make her fall in love with you.
Yes, treating them accordingly will achieve the same effect, plus is genuine. I personally am nice to a woman at first and give them just enough rope to hang themselves...and trust me, they ALWAYS do. When they do, then I react accordingly, which is usually a straight up jerk/asshole cause that's what they got coming. This is doubly effective because not only are they getting that emotional roller coaster they crave, they know that they deserve it.

Like I always say, there is nothing wrong with being an asshole if they are asking you to be one. Just don't be an asshole for no damn reason. 8-)
You do not even have to be an asshole. To me the asshole approach lessens the tension and emotional 'hit' for her somehat.

Let her know that she has done something wrong. Tell her off in a calm way and firm way.

Show her it has not affected you AND that you are displeased with her behaviour. Leave no doubt in her mind about it, both by your words AND actions. This will really fire her emotions up, as most men get upset at points like this. Some part of her is wondering what it takes to get to you.
This is like a double whammy on her emotions.

She knows she is in the wrong and deserves it, she will get emotional, she will also wonder why you are not even though you seem to be displeased with what she did. Not angry or upset but displeased. There is a subtle difference and gives her nothing to 'bounce' her emotions off or release them, they will build within her and build and build - till SHE does something to release them.

I find it much more effective than acting like a jerk/asshole. "I am not happy with you, my life will go on and I can deal with it. Alter your behaviour or leave." [unspoken message to her]

I agree with Kidd, give them enough rope and they WILL hang themselves, they are almost driven to it, even the 'nicest' of girls. They are like children, they have to test the limits of their environment.
Until you let them know that they have stepped over the limit, they will not believe there is a limit. When they do they want to see how you will react, will you just keep moving the limit and let them do more and more or will you stick to your limit and punish them in some way (even if just not being around them anymore).

The hardest part for most men to accept is that the women WANT limits. They NEED them.
To not set limits is the biggest mistake in my view that a man can make with a woman.

Author:  Star_Above [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:36 pm ]
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I think some have missed the point, it's not about being an asshole, it's about being STRONG + DOMINANT+ HARD TO GET = Uncontrolable emotions in her.

In regards to Grinus's post, I really agree with that. I dated this girl for 4 years (Long time ago), at the end she completely lost intrest and I remember I was trying to envoke some type of emotion out of her, I was being like a woman or a child as Kidd and Grinus put it...testing her, and this bitch was so fucking unreactive it hurt me a lot more then if she would have freaked out on me, because if she would have gotten mad at me at least I knew I would have "gotten to her". I told her "I'm never fucking you again", she replied with a smirk and a shoulder shrug that she didn't give a fuck that hurt me more then any "Fuck you asshole" ever could have.

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:15 pm ]
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I just make sure the punishment fits the crime. I'm usually very nonchalant and non-reactive...but sometimes you really gotta put your foot down in clear and certain terms...and sometimes those situations call for being a jerkoff. :mrgreen:

Author:  Naled [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:46 pm ]
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Yeah Sniper, +1,
sounds fake to me too to transform oneself just in order to make women attracted to you..
i'm sure not al women are like this and some are more love-based. More integrity and not rules by their instincts like idiots.

Author:  Star_Above [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:03 pm ]
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Naled wrote:
Yeah Sniper, +1,
sounds fake to me too to transform oneself just in order to make women attracted to you..
i'm sure not al women are like this and some are more love-based. More integrity and not rules by their instincts like idiots.
It's not about turning yourself into someone you're not, it's about returning to the man you naturally are before you got brainwashed with current social conditioning.

If you love yourself you're gonna chck bitches when they need checking, you're not gonna be all needy and up in her shiz because you don't need outside validation, you will be compltely honest with what you want which will make you a strong leader. It's not about faking, it's about being the man buried inside of you that's yelling to come out.

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:23 pm ]
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ManniJa wrote:
Naled wrote:
Yeah Sniper, +1,
sounds fake to me too to transform oneself just in order to make women attracted to you..
i'm sure not al women are like this and some are more love-based. More integrity and not rules by their instincts like idiots.
It's not about turning yourself into someone you're not, it's about returning to the man you naturally are before you got brainwashed with current social conditioning.

If you love yourself you're gonna chck bitches when they need checking, you're not gonna be all needy and up in her shiz because you don't need outside validation, you will be compltely honest with what you want which will make you a strong leader. It's not about faking, it's about being the man buried inside of you that's yelling to come out.
INDEED. :ugeek:

Author:  Star_Above [ Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:06 pm ]
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Thanks pimp :)

One other thing to add, if anyone is reading this and thinking "Ya but I thought it was just a concious evaluation of value that created attraction, so why do women need their emotions stirred up?" As some apparent popular pua teacher named Rob Judge pointed out in an article called "Value = bullshit, emotions are what causes attraction". The answer to that is simple, if you make her emotions go wild by being that strong, dominant, hard to get man, that's just another form of value...so it's still just value.

Author:  The GK [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:54 pm ]
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Great article!

But would you mind changing the topic name to something like "why women goes for jerks"? The topic was hard to find the second time around.

Author:  GoldenBoy [ Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:44 am ]
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Great thread

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