Natural Freedom

I know that I´m not on this planet to discover myself,
but to create myself. (I discovered this though...)

Affirmations are good for this.

I don't think it's possible for anyone- not being cynical here it's just doesn't make sense to do affirmations and then not expect results. It's like Bonder wrote above:
when you do work such as- discovering your true self: may it be Sedona, meditation, whatever....
then the goal is to free yourself from programming, and so it can work.

but as far as affirmations or even natural grounding:

It's more programming, Not saying it's bad but when it comes to programming
no one is doing it without expecting some outcome in the physical reality so it's kind of a catch to say: I do natural grounding or affirmations but I don't care about results...

it's the same as someone trying to get rich but at the same time says:
I don't care if I'm rich or not.

Affirmations might work for some people but from what I have heard as soon as somehting goes wrong: all the affirmations are going down the toilet. When it comes to women:
I can say that I'm the sexiest man alive: but as soon as I get a rejection or as soon as a woman I want stops wanting me: all the affirmations will go down the can.

on the other hand: if I don't care (I'm indifferent) then I don't need to tell myself affirmations or do natural grounding because I just don't give a shit if this or that woman wants me or not. I know what I have to offer and if that woman doesn't want me: there are plenty of other women who will....

And it's really not even worth arguing about. He's giving a testimonial about how it did work for him, not asking if it will. I suppose it's not for everyone.

I'm not arguing, I'm just trying to figure out if there is a way to do it and get consistent results......

Doing it without expecting anything to happen is not practical (for most people)
so maybe there is something missing here that we have not yet thought about

but either way, your gonna have to face rejection. That's the block between most men and women. They dont wanna face rejection. Even I get rejected from time to time. It only builds confidence. The affirmations are for YOUr own pleasure, they are NOT neccesary. But it doesn't hurt to see Yourself as the prize

Upon further reconsideration I've decided to work on my beliefs. I'm using a subliminal mp3 now to help with my confidence. I used to be against "changing" myself. It seemed like I wasn't being accepting of myself, but thats bullshit. You can be accepting of yourself AND work on yourself, they are not in contradiction. Guys that are naturally good with women grew up with the right beliefs, and they continue to benefit them. Likewise guys that grew up with not so good beliefs still have them holding them down.

The thing with beliefs is you can't consciously decide that you have that belief. Your subconscious has to accept it and you have to KNOW it. Affirmations are like beating your conscious mind into submission so you can actually get them into your subconscious mind. It works for some, but for others it is very very difficult to get that conscious mind to submit. It's not that affirmations don't work, it's just that some people's minds are very resistant to change.

Having said that, it's good to work on your beliefs AND take action. Don't use the negative beliefs as an excuse. Beliefs are there, whether your want to acknowledge it or not. So why not give yourself the best instead of settling?

like leeman says, affirmations bring out old believes that migth be put you down, so it's not just about saying pretty things in the hear

Whatever...you go ahead ahead and keep telling yourself what kind of man you wish to be while I keep on being that man and having women tell me that they wish their man was more like ME.