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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:59 am 
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One of the most interesting things I learned on this forum was the idea that women mature quicker than men but stop at some point leading to forms of immaturity and I'd like to in this thread give examples of that.

I'm doing a college course at the moment and there are a few girls in it with me. Now these girls seem nice at first, they talk to each other like they're best of friends and care for one another.

All of the "Oh you so wonderful" "I care for you" and "I like talking to you" and all that crap

Then one of them has their back turned and suddenly its all "She's a bitch" "I hate her" and "She's so annoying"

Also they're totally in to me but I'm not interested.

The immaturity can get a bit irritating. Its good to know about though, its gotten to the point with me that if they weren't good looking I probably wouldn't give them the time of day.

One thing I'd like to work on though is how my confidence can be shot if I'm around a pretty girl and I go in to PUA mode or worse AFC mode and can't get over how good looking they are, I'm pretty sure a bit more experience can cure that though.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:06 am 
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Azriel wrote:
One of the most interesting things I learned on this forum was the idea that women mature quicker than men
Who the fuck said that on here? I want his name!!! :evil:

Azriel wrote:
I'm doing a college course at the moment and there are a few girls in it with me. Now these girls seem nice at first, they talk to each other like they're best of friends and care for one another.
No they don't, they're like the Seahawks wishing the Patriots the best of luck in front of the media before the Superbowl.

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Then one of them has their back turned and suddenly its all "She's a bitch" "I hate her" and "She's so annoying"
Yep

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The immaturity can get a bit irritating. Its good to know about though, its gotten to the point with me that if they weren't good looking I probably wouldn't give them the time of day.
Obviously their looks are affecting you even though you say you're not into them, no need to impress anyone on here bro by talking about being indifferent.

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One thing I'd like to work on though is how my confidence can be shot if I'm around a pretty girl and I go in to PUA mode or worse AFC mode and can't get over how good looking they are, I'm pretty sure a bit more experience can cure that though.
If it hasn't yet then it won't with your current state of mind, you haven't seen the light...if you're lucky you'll invite one over and she'll take a shit at your place and clog the toilet, that'll get her off the pedestal and cure you...having a ton of other hot bitches wanting you will do it too, there's a few ways.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:24 pm 
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Depends what you mean by mature. They learn pyscological warfare and manipulation technique waaaaay earlier than most of us do, if we ever do that is(most never do). Little gals run rings around the boys, do better in the classroom whilst the lads are sitting there wondering who they're gonna jack off to that evening. Not to mention, it was always apparent to me how they used their sexuality before boys, plus their emotional life. Remember, boys are taught from day that they shouldn't cry or generally exhibit any emotion and it stunts the fuck out of us. It's encouraged in girls, they use it(even as grown Women they use emotion as a tool, either to extract sympathy or to frighten Men into submission because afterall we are taught to supress ours and we don't know how to handle emotion), and men fall for it. So really the word mature is probably the wrong one

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If you're still overwhelmed by a 'hot' girl then just allow yourself to be attracted to her. You have permission. So fukin what? She looks good. Neither of you should apologise. The aim is not to kill your desire like a Monk because that's denying yourself. Just acknowledge how attractive you think they are without doing anything about it. With time the overwhelming feeling will fade and they become rather boring on a surface level.

Otherwise you've still got a belief that her aesthetic appeal has a higher value than anything you can offer. See beyond that - Is she saying anything interesting? Is there life behind those dead eyes? Is she made up? If so, imagine what she looks like without - makeup, hair done up, push up this and that, unshaven, probably unwaxed moustache - a fuckin mess no doubt. I look better than most Women when they haven't got any of that stuff going on - difference is that I don't have to wear heels and makeup to get attention.

Don't forget though that she probably experiences it every fuckin day; some guy panics because she looks good and she starts getting the symp treatment. We all know girls like that; they either lap it up like hoes or they are embarrassed by it. Both types respond to you differently when you see through the way they look. They're disarmed 'cos they know they have to bring something else to the party. Most of the time they fail at doing even that.

I agree with Star though; once had a gal who was probably the hottest I had been with. Lovely gal too. Anyhow, she took a dump in my toilet and left a floater there. 'Twas the biggest dump I had ever seen, far bigger than I had ever done aswell. I wondered what man was guilty of this crime, but when I realised that I was the only man in the vicinity, it dawned on me. The culprit had a vagina. I was appalled by this revelation. She went from a 10/10 to 6/10 in that moment.


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I agree with Star though; once had a gal who was probably the hottest I had been with. Lovely gal too. Anyhow, she took a dump in my toilet and left a floater there. 'Twas the biggest dump I had ever seen, far bigger than I had ever done aswell. I wondered what man was guilty of this crime, but when I realised that I was the only man in the vicinity, it dawned on me. The culprit had a vagina. I was appalled by this revelation. She went from a 10/10 to 6/10 in that moment.
:lol: :lol: Fucked up ain't it?

It happened to me with the hottest one I've been with too, one day I remember I was at her place and when we were talking she turned her head for a minute and her ear was fucking full of wax, it was disgusting and I became one indifferent motherfucker after that lol

You gotta love nature, not letting you have a girl you really want buy forcing you to exhibit unattractive behaviors if you really want her to make sure monogamy doesn't happen, but when you don't want to be with just her you naturally exhibit attractive behaviors because of it and you get it all. Gotta follow nature's laws mofo's and you'll be showered with gifts.

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I agree with Star though; once had a gal who was probably the hottest I had been with. Lovely gal too. Anyhow, she took a dump in my toilet and left a floater there. 'Twas the biggest dump I had ever seen, far bigger than I had ever done aswell. I wondered what man was guilty of this crime, but when I realised that I was the only man in the vicinity, it dawned on me. The culprit had a vagina. I was appalled by this revelation. She went from a 10/10 to 6/10 in that moment.
LMAO DEAD

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Fuck that's hilarious. :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:02 pm 
Damn Leo, I feel you. She did turn into a 6/10. You remember this sexy picture she sent you when she left? I remember it like it happened yesterday.


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Star_Above wrote:
Azriel wrote:
One of the most interesting things I learned on this forum was the idea that women mature quicker than men
Who the fuck said that on here? I want his name!!! :evil:
Woops meant women mature faster but stop at some point as evident in the whole two facedeness and cry at the drop of a hat thing

Azriel wrote:
I'm doing a college course at the moment and there are a few girls in it with me. Now these girls seem nice at first, they talk to each other like they're best of friends and care for one another.
No they don't, they're like the Seahawks wishing the Patriots the best of luck in front of the media before the Superbowl.[/quote]

Don't know a lot about american sports but I think I know what you mean

Azriel wrote:
Then one of them has their back turned and suddenly its all "She's a bitch" "I hate her" and "She's so annoying"
Yep

Azriel wrote:
The immaturity can get a bit irritating. Its good to know about though, its gotten to the point with me that if they weren't good looking I probably wouldn't give them the time of day.
Obviously their looks are affecting you even though you say you're not into them, no need to impress anyone on here bro by talking about being indifferent.
[/quote]

A friend of mine told me some good advice which is similar to what I'm getting here, he told me about pedistals and idolising women, this can come based on what your main experience of women is and for me its mostly the more seedy things you get on the internet I'm trying out what he said and detoxing myself from the image of women given on the media and the darker corners of the internet. It makes sense because a few weeks ago I was at a party and was completely dumbfounded by a particularly attractive girl (they were big if you know what I mean) so I'm trying the detox to see what affect it'll have on me.
Azriel wrote:
One thing I'd like to work on though is how my confidence can be shot if I'm around a pretty girl and I go in to PUA mode or worse AFC mode and can't get over how good looking they are, I'm pretty sure a bit more experience can cure that though.
If it hasn't yet then it won't with your current state of mind, you haven't seen the light...if you're lucky you'll invite one over and she'll take a shit at your place and clog the toilet, that'll get her off the pedestal and cure you...having a ton of other hot bitches wanting you will do it too, there's a few ways.[/quote]

My response to this is up there^ Went on a bit of a tangent :P

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Leo wrote:
Depends what you mean by mature. They learn pyscological warfare and manipulation technique waaaaay earlier than most of us do, if we ever do that is(most never do). Little gals run rings around the boys, do better in the classroom whilst the lads are sitting there wondering who they're gonna jack off to that evening. Not to mention, it was always apparent to me how they used their sexuality before boys, plus their emotional life. Remember, boys are taught from day that they shouldn't cry or generally exhibit any emotion and it stunts the fuck out of us. It's encouraged in girls, they use it(even as grown Women they use emotion as a tool, either to extract sympathy or to frighten Men into submission because afterall we are taught to supress ours and we don't know how to handle emotion), and men fall for it. So really the word mature is probably the wrong one

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If you're still overwhelmed by a 'hot' girl then just allow yourself to be attracted to her. You have permission. So fukin what? She looks good. Neither of you should apologise. The aim is not to kill your desire like a Monk because that's denying yourself. Just acknowledge how attractive you think they are without doing anything about it. With time the overwhelming feeling will fade and they become rather boring on a surface level.

Otherwise you've still got a belief that her aesthetic appeal has a higher value than anything you can offer. See beyond that - Is she saying anything interesting? Is there life behind those dead eyes? Is she made up? If so, imagine what she looks like without - makeup, hair done up, push up this and that, unshaven, probably unwaxed moustache - a fuckin mess no doubt. I look better than most Women when they haven't got any of that stuff going on - difference is that I don't have to wear heels and makeup to get attention.

Don't forget though that she probably experiences it every fuckin day; some guy panics because she looks good and she starts getting the symp treatment. We all know girls like that; they either lap it up like hoes or they are embarrassed by it. Both types respond to you differently when you see through the way they look. They're disarmed 'cos they know they have to bring something else to the party. Most of the time they fail at doing even that.

I agree with Star though; once had a gal who was probably the hottest I had been with. Lovely gal too. Anyhow, she took a dump in my toilet and left a floater there. 'Twas the biggest dump I had ever seen, far bigger than I had ever done aswell. I wondered what man was guilty of this crime, but when I realised that I was the only man in the vicinity, it dawned on me. The culprit had a vagina. I was appalled by this revelation. She went from a 10/10 to 6/10 in that moment.
Ah I see so its about self acceptance and non resistance! Reminds me of something Johnny Soporno once said about flaws to focus on, "look at the mole on her ass" I remember he said. And a friend of mine said similar to what I'm learning here "Women are not so different from men, they all piss shit and fart just like men do"

Also I learned here about the cemented vagina, would I still be nice to her or talk to her if fucking her was impossible?
Star_Above wrote:
Leo wrote:
I agree with Star though; once had a gal who was probably the hottest I had been with. Lovely gal too. Anyhow, she took a dump in my toilet and left a floater there. 'Twas the biggest dump I had ever seen, far bigger than I had ever done aswell. I wondered what man was guilty of this crime, but when I realised that I was the only man in the vicinity, it dawned on me. The culprit had a vagina. I was appalled by this revelation. She went from a 10/10 to 6/10 in that moment.
:lol: :lol: Fucked up ain't it?

It happened to me with the hottest one I've been with too, one day I remember I was at her place and when we were talking she turned her head for a minute and her ear was fucking full of wax, it was disgusting and I became one indifferent motherfucker after that lol

You gotta love nature, not letting you have a girl you really want buy forcing you to exhibit unattractive behaviors if you really want her to make sure monogamy doesn't happen, but when you don't want to be with just her you naturally exhibit attractive behaviors because of it and you get it all. Gotta follow nature's laws mofo's and you'll be showered with gifts.
Definitly going to be looking for flaws rather than focusing on how awesome her boobs are or whatever!
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Damn Leo, I feel you. She did turn into a 6/10. You remember this sexy picture she sent you when she left? I remember it like it happened yesterday.


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Eeeewww :P

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:58 am 
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Ah I see so its about self acceptance and non resistance!
Yeah, what you resist persists. Allow yourself to be attracted, overwhelmed even if that's how you feel. If you're trying to block that, then firstly it's because you want to appear a certain way to her in order to have a shot at fucking her; IOW, you're doing it for her not for you. Allowing the way you feel to be there means you don't give a fuck how she is perceiving you. Secondly, she'll see through it anyway so why cover up - you're not trying to fuck her and you're not attached to an outcome.

More often than not you have to take a few hits for the team(the team being you and your ego) in the short term to benefit from the long term. Eventually your mindset becomes congruent with your actions and the overwhelmed sensation disappears. Experience goes some way but only quality experience. A PUA would go into the field and approach every beautiful Women he sees in order to become desensitised. I can see the benefit of that but it's unnecessary. The real core of the issue is that your 'confidence is shot' when in the presence of beautiful women. To me this translates as you holding a belief that her looks are of higher value than anything you have to offer. So you're focusing on outer things too much.
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Ah I see so its about self acceptance and non resistance!
Yeah, what you resist persists. Allow yourself to be attracted, overwhelmed even if that's how you feel. If you're trying to block that, then firstly it's because you want to appear a certain way to her in order to have a shot at fucking her; IOW, you're doing it for her not for you. Allowing the way you feel to be there means you don't give a fuck how she is perceiving you. Secondly, she'll see through it anyway so why cover up - you're not trying to fuck her and you're not attached to an outcome.

More often than not you have to take a few hits for the team(the team being you and your ego) in the short term to benefit from the long term. Eventually your mindset becomes congruent with your actions and the overwhelmed sensation disappears. Experience goes some way but only quality experience. A PUA would go into the field and approach every beautiful Women he sees in order to become desensitised. I can see the benefit of that but it's unnecessary. The real core of the issue is that your 'confidence is shot' when in the presence of beautiful women. To me this translates as you holding a belief that her looks are of higher value than anything you have to offer. So you're focusing on outer things too much.
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Would you still be nice or talk to her if fucking her was impossible?
'Treat them accordingly'.[/quote]


This is what I need to hear. Its just I'm not always around women so if I am and they're pretty or dressed in a certain way it throws me off and I feel like I need to impress her.

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