Natural Freedom

Hey guys,

I was going to wait a bit with this post but I feel some of you need a little encouragement

I had some success in the past but within the last week things have been going way better then before. It's like I had a huge mindset shift.....

First I'll tell you guys that I'm dating a very nice girl for about a week. Things got sexual (in the bed) after the third date (in the past it used to take much longer....)

I was at a party this weekend (without her) and some girl I know (who I sometimes see when I'm with the guys) just came and set on my lap (without me asking or saying anything ).
Now, this is the weird part: in the past she never showed any interest in me and not only that- she used to always avoid me. This weekend however, she came and set on my lap without me doing anything.......

I also got crazy signals\signs of interest all over the place (some from a girl who had a boyfriend over there at the party. I think he was angry )

And then another thing happened: I have a friend who has a girlfriend and they just moved in together two days ago. Anway, I told Her I would come by to visit and see the place.
She said: 'Ok, just tell me what you love to eat before you come and I will make it'
this might not sound like a big deal but this is the first time a girl who is not my girlfriend wants to cook for me. Even my previous girlfriends barely cooked for me. And she is not doing this to impress her boyfriend- she already has him in her pocket (she is wearing the pants in the relationship......)

The thing is, I really don't care about success with women (maybe that's why all these things happened? )

So how did I get to this place of not caring and having results?
Natural grounding? No
smile and wink? hell No

simple: I learned from people who had more success than me (here on the forum). Took the stuff that worked for me and created my own personal 'tool box'.

I have to attribute most of my success to 'the Kidd' and covert tactics. When you do observations and learn to read subtle signs, you start to see beyond the matrix that girls are really checking you out.

There is also great posts and advise here by TML which has helped me a lot
peregrinus- your posts have also helped.

The other great guys that post here, I have learned from each and everyone of you something, so you all had contribution.

As far as teachers in the industry, I learned a lot from David X and Corry Sky (more about affirmations later*). Some of Brent's podcasts also helped as far as inner game. Zan and Rion also had their contribution in my learning process (so I have to give these guys some credit too )
As far as learning from women- I have learned a lot from Gina. She is the only woman I listen to....

guys, if you want to have success there is no magic pill (like watching palmy for 15 minutes a day). I also don't beleive there is one teacher who has all the answers....we are all different so you might need to learn from a few until you have your own 'tool box' that is in congruence with who you are...

Now, note that all the teachers I mentioned above teach natural game and lifestyle. I created the section of 'value from other teachers' so that we all know who to learn from and avoid the ones who just teach PUA techniques. Maybe for some of you The Kidd's advise and the other advise here will be enough, but you have to give it a try....

Guys, this forum is priceless and you have all (or at least most) of what you need in here.
If you take the time to read and apply you will have success......

I had my doubts too and my success is not like The Kidd's or TML's success. But after this weekend and with the new girl I'm dating- I have seen what's possible and from here on I can keep growing faster.

(* instead of affirmations I'm now using alpha male subliminal messages, I just let them run in the background while I'm doing other things and this way I don't have to do much work. With subliminal messages I'm deleting the old negative programs such as: 'I don't deserve beauiful women' and it's automaticly replacing the old garbage with new beliefs that support you. If anyone wants a link to that site pm me..)

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Ha! Shay, you know I was going to ask you if you had heard of those ultrasonic subliminals, because I use them as well and I think they are absolutley fantastic that is assuming we are talking about the same ones from subliminal-shop.com. I think they're a great tool, but I also use affirmations as well.

Also, thanks for your kind words. This road we're on isn't exactly an easy one because we kind of go directly against conventional ideas and as far as success goes, I'm sure The Kidd will agree with me, that to get a good amount of success, you have to go throught trials and tribulations usually and we're all still learning, so we certainly didn't have any magic pills to help us out. It's a consistency over time and consistency IS God-like and I'm very happy that things are working well for you, Shay.

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I'm not using subliminals from subliminal-shop.com. I'm bought mine from here:

http://www.subliminalmp3s.com/become-an ... subliminal

of course subliminals are a supplement to the other stuff we are discussing here....
and thank you for telling me about Brent's podcast. At first I didn't want to listen to him but he does have some inner game stuff that have helped me for the final touch.

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I've had visuals subliminals running 24/7 on my computer since February and nothing's happened so I took them off, it doesn't work for everyone, if they had something really effective that could break through psychological barriers that would be awesome but that technology is at least 20 years away, for now we have to do the work of reprogramming ourselves by ourselves.

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"Simply put, you being in her life is a BLESSING. Her wronging you in any way is her own self-inflicted CURSE, and if she does wrong you, then let the punishment fit the crime. Her life will absolutely SUCK without you."

which subliminals did you use?
where did you get them from?

did you apply other stuff (like The Kidd's advise....)

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

First off, thanks for the kind words and endorsements. I'm glad that my stuff was able to make such a tangible difference in your life, Shay, and your results, which are fantastic btw, are pretty much expected from where I'm sitting. Guys need to understand that everyone has different tastes, and just because you are not the epitome of what society considers attractive, doesn't mean that you are attractive to NO ONE...if you know what to look for, you will see that there are HUNDREDS of women who like you just the way you are. ^_^

Also, TML is absolutely right. The way I am today, along the the information you see complied in Kidd'z Korner was not obtained from an E-Book, lecture, DVD box set or YouTube. It was my own blood, sweat and tears (an believe me, there were a LOT of tears) that got me mentally where I am today. I hoped that by detailing the important bits it would save someone else a few drops of blood, sweat and tears....and hopefully it has.

That said, I'm planning to throw my hat into the ring and do a bit more lifestyle coaching via Skype. If anyone feels they would like a more personal touch or would like to have specific issues addressed privately and thoroughly, please feel free to PM me or email me at:

ob1_kiddobi@hotmail.com

I'm finally finished with nursing school next week, so my time will finally blossom. I look forward to reading more success stories! ^____^

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To the good LifeStyle Shay! Bend those walls!

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Good to hear your positive thoughts and results Shay.

Carry on the good work.

The journey is as important as the destination, enjoy it along the way.

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In building a statue, a sculptor doesn't keep adding clay to his subject.He keeps chiseling away at the inessentials until the truth of its creation is revealed without obstructions. Perfection is not when there is no more to add,but no more to take away.

Yet it is not necessary to have covert tactics.

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I think one should take what is good and create his own 'tool box'.
I don't think that there is one global advise that is good for everyone However, when you live in a country where the women are not acting natural, covert tactics are reallly helpful.

Maybe in Finland you don't need covert tactics

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

Women are big time chasers of men i countries like Finland or Denmark from what I understand. American women not so much...not to say that I am going to go through any extra effort to get what I want from them. The conclusion I've come to is that there are women who will chase men anywhere in the world. I'm not willing to put in a lot of effort to get with a girl. It happens or it doesn't. Whatever. I have better things to do with time, but because of that attitude it's usually pretty effortless for me to get women worked up because they have zero power on my sense of well being and they can sense it.

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This is the gospel, TML...please continue to spit it.

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

Pimposophy Revisited is now finally available on Amazon in all territories!

You´ll realize that Cause/Effect is real. You grow Love, you put it out, you´ll receive love, AFTER you put it out there. Attach tricks in it, receive tricks in return.

Ever heard of The Superconscious Mind? I did mention it on RELM, if you search it under "11 Universal Laws" you´ll see it briefly mentioned. How about The Cosmic HabitForce? It´s not even about "women chasing you" it´s about real genuine attraction.

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and again:

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In building a statue, a sculptor doesn't keep adding clay to his subject.He keeps chiseling away at the inessentials until the truth of its creation is revealed without obstructions. Perfection is not when there is no more to add,but no more to take away.

Oh shit. Sorry. Wrong thread.

I meant to post this in another thread.

Anyway it is really great to hear about your success Shay.