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Author:  caliboy85 [ Tue May 13, 2014 9:01 pm ]
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Hey guys when your mind is stuck on ONE women who isn't reciprocating often the suggested advice from most people in society is go talk to other women so you are not stuck on that one.Here is what I am curious about.Isnt it better to work on being ok without women period instead of talking to other women so you are not preoccupied with that ONE?

If you tell yourself I'm ok with that ONE not being interested in me because there are other women who are interested really aren't you just using those "other women" as a crutch?

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Tue May 13, 2014 9:51 pm ]
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Have at it guys...I'm DONE. :geek:

Author:  Jared [ Tue May 13, 2014 9:56 pm ]
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:lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjmIzORBOxA

Author:  caliboy85 [ Tue May 13, 2014 10:08 pm ]
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Jared wrote:
So essentially let them go and if they want they can come back since you can't force someone to love you.That was a good video.

Author:  Dali [ Tue May 13, 2014 10:10 pm ]
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caliboy85 wrote:
Jared wrote:
So essentially let them go and if they want they can come back since you can't force someone to love you.That was a good video.
I WORKED WITH YOU THIS SHIT CALI, AND YOU STILL STUCK DUDE... MEANS YOU DIDN'T HEAR ME OR READ ME, AND THUS A WASTE OF MY TIME.
I TOLD YOU WHAT WOULD BE THE RESPONSE OF THE EXPERIENCED GUYS, JUST LET IT GO. L.E.T. .T.H.A.T. .G.O., AND STOP PLAYING IT SAFE, IF YOU WANT IT ENOUGH.

BETTER BE DOING THAT AUDIO AN ENDLESS LOOP ON YOUR CELL PHONE AND PLAY IT ALL DAY.

Yes: It's All Caps.

Author:  Jared [ Tue May 13, 2014 10:16 pm ]
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http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopi ... =241#p1479

This was already covered in Starting Fresh.

Whether you are attached to ONE or some other
woman, or you are indifferent to their coming and
going, they still gonna come and go as they will.
(and not as you will it.)

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Tue May 13, 2014 10:18 pm ]
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Hmmm...referencing Covert Tactics...sound familiar, Cali? ;)

Author:  caliboy85 [ Tue May 13, 2014 10:31 pm ]
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I want to fill that void that makes me think i need woman.Yes the key is to accept the pain and hurt instead of fighting it.In the meantime instead of using women in general as a blanket for not having a particular woman around i am better off dissolving myself in hobbies correct?

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Tue May 13, 2014 10:33 pm ]
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Wow Dali...I'm REALLY done now :shock:

Author:  Dali [ Tue May 13, 2014 10:57 pm ]
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caliboy85 wrote:
I want to fill that void that makes me think i need woman.Yes the key is to accept the pain and hurt instead of fighting it.In the meantime instead of using women in general as a blanket for not having a particular woman around i am better off dissolving myself in hobbies correct?
AAAAAAND stop repeating the teachings/bottom-lines like you got it cali, it's hurting you more than you think (confuses you and other guys) because a logical person would assume that the lesson was learned, at least in words.

Better start living/experiencing this freedom rather pretending/appearing "paraphrasing the words, like you "got it"...

Author:  caliboy85 [ Tue May 13, 2014 11:12 pm ]
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For the next 90 days i am not going to ask any women for phone numbers or
dates.Neither will i ignore them but this time i am going out only because there is something that i enjoy doing.

Author:  Slim Titan [ Tue May 13, 2014 11:20 pm ]
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caliboy85 wrote:
I want to fill that void that makes me think i need woman.Yes the key is to accept the pain and hurt instead of fighting it.In the meantime instead of using women in general as a blanket for not having a particular woman around i am better off dissolving myself in hobbies correct?
The key is to realize that the pain and hurt (in your words, but more likely frustration) is an illusion. :geek:

Reality is not designed for you to suffer from what you don't have because it gives you so many more things. 8-)

There is no void. :ugeek: As soon as you align your beliefs with reality, you will see that it offers you so much more of the tangible things you can want that it is difficult to handle and prioritize them all. :mrgreen:

When you work off being in line with your priorities and needs then your desires will fall into the specific place they are meant to. :geek:

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Tue May 13, 2014 11:22 pm ]
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You know... I'm starting to be convinced this may not be the path for you...and there's nothing wrong with that. :geek:

Author:  caliboy85 [ Tue May 13, 2014 11:43 pm ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
You know... I'm starting to be convinced this may not be the path for you...and there's nothing wrong with that. :geek:
No it is.Just at a low point right now.

Author:  Slim Titan [ Tue May 13, 2014 11:44 pm ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
You know... I'm starting to be convinced this may not be the path for you...and there's nothing wrong with that. :geek:
Almost everyone on the forum has made progress. People make it in different strides. Almost everyone starts making significant progress when they move forward by coming to forum and then move back into their old thinking. :geek: Then, they struggle with the concepts. Some people catch on faster. Meraki, Roark, and Stephen P are good example of people who caught on faster. :ugeek:

As a matter of fact, I was a member before Meraki and Roark and they made much more significant mental progress than me in a shorter time. It also happens that they are both older than me.

Caliboy is around my age. Altair is around my age. Altair struggled for about 1.5 years then things started clicking. I struggled for about 2 years and then things started clicking.

The real progress comes when he gets tired of women like I did around mid 2013. I have to admit that I've made some backwards progress going to in 2014 followed by some strong steps forward.

Learning is most likely not a linear process although many places teach that way. :ugeek:

Author:  caliboy85 [ Tue May 13, 2014 11:50 pm ]
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Slim Titan wrote:
The Kidd!! wrote:
You know... I'm starting to be convinced this may not be the path for you...and there's nothing wrong with that. :geek:
Almost everyone on the forum has made progress. People make it in different strides. Almost everyone starts making significant progress when they move forward by coming to forum and then move back into their old thinking. :geek: Then, they struggle with the concepts. Some people catch on faster. Meraki, Roark, and Stephen P are good example of people who caught on faster. :ugeek:

As a matter of fact, I was a member before Meraki and Roark and they made much more significant mental progress than me in a shorter time. It also happens that they are both older than me.

Caliboy is around my age. Altair is around my age. Altair struggled for about 1.5 years then things started clicking. I struggled for about 2 years and then things started clicking.

The real progress comes when he gets tired of women like I did around mid 2013. I have to admit that I've made some backwards progress going to in 2014 followed by some strong steps forward.

Learning is most likely not a linear process although many places teach that way. :ugeek:

Thanks for showing your confidence in me.Kidd,Dali,Altair and everyone else
Here i appreciate your guidance.Having studied pick up from age 23-28 there is some unconditioning that needs to be done.

Author:  caliboy85 [ Wed May 14, 2014 4:47 am ]
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Thanks guys

Author:  TheDude [ Wed May 14, 2014 9:42 am ]
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[Much to type]

@Jared :lol: great video!
caliboy85 wrote:
I want to fill that void that makes me think i need woman.Yes the key is to accept the pain and hurt instead of fighting it.In the meantime instead of using women in general as a blanket for not having a particular woman around i am better off dissolving myself in hobbies correct?
I will reference slim...there is no void. See if you can see where it comes from.
caliboy85 wrote:
For the next 90 days i am not going to ask any women for phone numbers or
dates.Neither will i ignore them but this time i am going out only because there is something that i enjoy doing.
Ego. Why 90 days? Why not 20,000 days. This isn't about women for you. You think it is, but its not.

Sit down. Take a breathe. Take out the garbage.
The Kidd!! wrote:
You know... I'm starting to be convinced this may not be the path for you...and there's nothing wrong with that. :geek:
Really sit down and think about this. Why force yourself something when deep down you don't want it?
caliboy85 wrote:
Here i appreciate your guidance.Having studied pick up from age 23-28 there is some unconditioning that needs to be done.
So get to work and be kind to yourself in the process. Less typing more reading and digesting.

Author:  Meraki [ Wed May 14, 2014 5:14 pm ]
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Caliboy, pushups NAO!

Author:  peregrinus [ Wed May 14, 2014 6:04 pm ]
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bliss wrote:
This isn't about women for you. You think it is, but its not.
THIS!

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