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Author:  caliboy85 [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:21 am ]
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I left california and have been living here in atlanta for 3 months.I thought that this would be easy for me not having to pay rent but things have been troublesome.My dad has been getting wasted every few weeks till he throws up.He blames my mom for controlling him but I tell him that he is the one that allows it through his behavior.Anyways he kept pushing me to move out here so I did and some of it was out of guilt as well.Later he even said that he wanted me to move because it gave him a sense of purpose at the age of 60(after i arrived here)Anyways,it hasn't fixed his problems and I even told him you can expect people to fill up your holes.I found out awhile back that he had a very traumatic childhood and his parents punished him for the incident instead of sending him to a therapist.To this day he never brought it up but i know about it.The point is it's starting to affect me and cannot just live in peace.He's fought alcoholism most of his life and was sober for a few years.i don't know if its a coincidence but he started going on these binges after I moved here according to my mother.I can't spend my life saving people.Why would you try to bring your kid into witnessing misery?
My options are
1.Go back to Cali and try to work at my old job
2.stay in Atlanta and move into another spot
3.stay at the house and have him work with a psychologist
B
I am unemployed but have about 5 months of rent saved up.What in worried about is if I suddenly leave he will use the fact that I'm not there as a reason to binge.

What is the most logical thing to do for all parties?

Author:  Altair [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:05 am ]
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You have many options..your limiting yourself to a few options when in reality you have dozens

Your parents bullshit is not your burden, fuck that, people that cannot deal with their problems and always wanting sympathy and whatever bc they had some challenges? Makes me be like :|

And until you can free yourself from the expectations of others your will remain trapped. :ugeek:

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:42 am ]
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Altair wrote:
You have many options..your limiting yourself to a few options when in reality you have dozens

Your parents bullshit is not your burden, fuck that, people that cannot deal with their problems and always wanting sympathy and whatever bc they had some challenges? Makes me be like :|

And until you can free yourself from the expectations of others your will remain trapped. :ugeek:
Well...that's a hard act to follow. :geek:

Author:  StephenP [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:20 am ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
Altair wrote:
You have many options..your limiting yourself to a few options when in reality you have dozens

Your parents bullshit is not your burden, fuck that, people that cannot deal with their problems and always wanting sympathy and whatever bc they had some challenges? Makes me be like :|

And until you can free yourself from the expectations of others your will remain trapped. :ugeek:
Well...that's a hard act to follow. :geek:
Seconded

Author:  peregrinus [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:24 am ]
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caliboy85 wrote:
What is the most logical thing to do for all parties?
For him, himself, to sort his shit out.

Author:  Meraki [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:58 pm ]
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peregrinus wrote:
caliboy85 wrote:
What is the most logical thing to do for all parties?
For him, himself, to sort his shit out.
This.

And second place would be for you to sort your shit out and do what you need to do regardless of what happens to your dad. Just because you are related to him does not make you responsible for him. You are your own person, he is his own person.

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caliboy85 wrote:
i don't know if its a coincidence but he started going on these binges after I moved here according to my mother.
caliboy85 wrote:
What in worried about is if I suddenly leave he will use the fact that I'm not there as a reason to binge.
Do you see the flaw in your logic in these two statements?

Author:  Altair [ Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:44 pm ]
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The fact it's so difficult is what makes it rewarding. It is satisfying to do what few can :geek:

Author:  Leo [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:58 pm ]
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caliboy85 wrote:
My options are
1.Go back to Cali and try to work at my old job
2.stay in Atlanta and move into another spot
3.stay at the house and have him work with a psychologist

What is the most logical thing to do for all parties?
The logical thing is to go back to Cali and find a new job. What he does is then his decision, not yours.

The emotional thing to do would be staying in Atlanta, but mostly staying at his house in Atlanta and 'helping' him in any way.

Author:  Alchemist [ Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:00 pm ]
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Your dad's life is his responsibility not yours.

If he fucked up it's his problem not yours.

It's really that simple.

Distance yourself from your parents' personal drama.

Author:  Jared [ Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:45 pm ]
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peregrinus wrote:
caliboy85 wrote:
What is the most logical thing to do for all parties?
For him, himself, to sort his shit out.
To commit to win-win or no deal.

Consanguinity only goes so far. If you have strong
family values, I congratulate you. That is fine.
You still gotta be expanding your life and make that
your #1 priority. Funny thing when you do, you become
more able to help them better from a higher and more
leveraged direction, while remaining psychologically
detached.

One can throw new values/ideas to the table and see
if people bite them. Force feeding is not necessary.

"Individual inner transformation is the only way to
social peace. This means you and me."
-----Vernon Howard

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