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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:31 pm 
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To the first question definitely better to move on sooner or later

To the second question it would be annoying if it was the ones i'm not physically attracted too(really obese or really wrinkly.I am attracted to women who have a little meat to them and even women in their 40s and 50s.)

But to the ones im not physically attracted to it would be annoying.However with the ones i am physically attracted too i wouldn't be bothered by the flirting.

So to answer your question if it was ALL females over 18 including the ones i found ugly were trying to get into my pants then yes i would be annoyed.But if you remove the ones i find ugly from the equation i wouldn't mind the attractive ones trying to get in my pants.It would be great knowing you can get sex anytime from any woman you find physically attractive.

This is my honest answer.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:45 pm 
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Alright i took a look at this question more deeply.I realized this squeezing the lemon is a feeling question rather than what i think would happen.

So how would i feel if no woman ever wanted me..I would feel devasted of not getting their love and approval
Yes it would hurt for awhile but after a while it wouldn't hurt as much..How much? I don't know but it would it would feel less painful after while.Deep down inside there is part of me that wants love and approval.I just need to sit with it and allow myself to feel it.

To the second question if every woman wanted me,wanted to tear my pants off i would like the love and approval i would get from an attractive women given me that kind of love,approval and affection.It would feel great being loved and approved by an attractive woman but underneath that feeling their would always be that fear of not being loved and being approved.

So the them is love and approval in both scenerio,that is what the search is for.

For now just need to sit with this.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:59 pm 
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Better. You're getting closer.
Caliboy wrote:
But if you remove the ones i find ugly from the equation i wouldn't mind the attractive ones trying to get in my pants.It would be great knowing you can get sex anytime from any woman you find physically attractive.
When did I say you would get to remove the ones you don't like? What made you think that you have the power to make the ugly women not want you?
Caliboy wrote:
I realized this squeezing the lemon is a feeling question rather than what i think would happen.
Good. Lets make this even more extreme and hopefully obvious:

What if NO WOMAN EVER gave you love and approval for the rest of your life? What would that feel like?

And:

What if EVERY SINGLE FEMALE ON THE PLANET wanted you? If every time you walked out in the street you had girls screaming and chasing you, trying just even to touch you. What would that feel like? How would you act? How would you act after 10 years of it?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:09 pm 
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Meraki wrote:
Better. You're getting closer.
Caliboy wrote:
But if you remove the ones i find ugly from the equation i wouldn't mind the attractive ones trying to get in my pants.It would be great knowing you can get sex anytime from any woman you find physically attractive.
When did I say you would get to remove the ones you don't like? What made you think that you have the power to make the ugly women not want you?
Caliboy wrote:
I realized this squeezing the lemon is a feeling question rather than what i think would happen.
Good. Lets make this even more extreme and hopefully obvious:

What if NO WOMAN EVER gave you love and approval for the rest of your life? What would that feel like?

And:

What if EVERY SINGLE FEMALE ON THE PLANET wanted you? If every time you walked out in the street you had girls screaming and chasing you, trying just even to touch you. What would that feel like? How would you act? How would you act after 10 years of it?


1)If no woman ever gave me love and approval and affection meaning they wouldn't check me out and smile,never approach like some men on here get approached and never wanted to cuddle,makeout,let me fuck them,let me give them my feelings then it would be devasting it would hurt knowing other guys get fucked and touched and i don't get any love or affection.Thats one of the reasons i watch porn because it feels like i get some affection from the women on there.

2)If every single women wanted me including the ugly ones it would be annoying.I already get annoyed when women i don't find attractive like me.After 10 years of it i would get annoyed if it was All WOMEN.I would want my freedom and breathing space.I'd feel like a celebrity who wouldn't be left alone if they are always doing it every time i go out.I'd just want to stay home and read something or do some other hobby.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:06 pm 
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Again better.

How does each scenario make you feel? Really sit with each scenario for a while. Sit there and feel what it would feel like to be in that position.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:45 am 
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Thanks


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:39 pm 
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Caliboy there's also a commonality between both of the situations Meraki is describing. Try to look for that as well.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:47 pm 
Gonna pm you about the commonality Aragorn.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:45 am 
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Yes the "squeezing the lemon" is actually the last part of a longer process, and the point is to bring up the most extreme examples so you can squeeze whatever emotional juice is there in order to process it. It is feeling based, whatever thoughts your mind comes up with about how it might react to some hypothetical situation, that would probably never ever happen anyway, just makes it a masturbatory thing.

It is also meant to show how attachment (I want this thing) and aversion (that would actually be horrible) are two sides of the same coin around any topic you are not free about. The aversion side is usually more subtle, if not totally subconscious before making a point to bring it up, thus extreme scenarios. On subjects like sex, where men are constantly buried in attachment, they aren't even aware that the aversion exists. This makes working with sexual aversion one of the most powerful things you can work with for many guys. They have no idea how many parts of them are actually repelling this, buried shame, fear of intimacy, STDs, thinking parts of the female body or their own are gross, future rejection, sex = relationship and if not you are doing something wrong, acting or being sexual is bad, bad past experiences with woman not wanting to go near them again, etc. Many of these are way deep, especially in a culture where you are given extreme mixed messages about sexuality in your most formative years. Combine this with the I want sex voice being so loud and dominant that it puts the blinders on for many.

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