Natural Freedom

How many of you guys have tried Wind Surfing?

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In building a statue, a sculptor doesn't keep adding clay to his subject.He keeps chiseling away at the inessentials until the truth of its creation is revealed without obstructions. Perfection is not when there is no more to add,but no more to take away.

I haven't, so I don't don't get it. Maybe you are referring to something along the lines of tacking into the wind, instead of against it......

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"I will not grow in the light, until I pass through the darkest caverns of my heart..."

"Temet Nosce"

I've never see a sea with my own eyes
I've been on a little lake ship.. That was AMAZING

Has anyone figured this one out yet? Or was I correct (against all odds)?

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"I will not grow in the light, until I pass through the darkest caverns of my heart..."

"Temet Nosce"

Nope. no one has figured it out

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In building a statue, a sculptor doesn't keep adding clay to his subject.He keeps chiseling away at the inessentials until the truth of its creation is revealed without obstructions. Perfection is not when there is no more to add,but no more to take away.

I know!

...but mums the word.

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probably similar with 'go with the flow'. idea behind the technique

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“Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms—to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.” Viktor E. Frankl

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The opposite of courage in our society is not cowardice, it's conformity.

Lol I haven't been on the forum too much recently and just saw this now.

Actually lately I've been ignoring girls when they text me. I've been busy lately and just don't have the energy to care haha. The other night this girl texted me at 1am while I was playing black ops asking me how I'm doing and I ignored it. She texted me again last night while I was out with some friends and ignored that too. My mind is just focused on other things right now and I really don't have any interest in meeting up with any girls right now.

The only reason why I talked about talking to girls when ur out at a club is cause in my experience I kept getting better every time I did it so I kept building more confidence. That was just my suggestion. Sometimes taking action leads to success faster then not doing anything. But it's not always the case especially when it comes to women. I'm a big believer in just focusing on yourself and becoming a better man everyday. I'm also a huge believer in having positive energy. If you feel good about yourself and your life then you don't need a woman to make you feel good. It's only the icing on the cake. Abundance mentality is what it's all about and your the only person that can create that lifestyle.

I guess I gave you the wrong idea about myself when I posted that on the other thread but its all good. Do whatever feels right to you in your gut. If you think there's no reason for you to interact with those chicks then chances are your probably right about it.

I struggle with living out this indifference. Seems so mystical and yet precise.

Lately I've been indifferent, but mostly apathetic. I focus on me and then shift back to results. I must be partly motivated to "improve" myself because of women, which is good, but not what I need. I feel like I need women now, but sometimes I don't. I shift, but spend most time feeling like I need women.

I feel happy by myself, yes, and at times I would say I feel happiest now even without a women. Objectively however... My family says they saw me happiest when I was with the last girl and really my first girl. So I am missing a lot here. Do I actually like the anticipation and nervousness associated with all the uncertainty and possibility of a relationship? I must on some level. Yet I don't at the same time lol... I like excitement and I feel like I need people to really be excited. Or do something reaaaaly interesting. People excite me more easily. Which is weird in a way because I'm usually quiet. However I like to be loud and quiet, just depends on mood I guess. I can be enthusiastic or really not care. Most of the time I am quiet due to fear or censoring like that might be seen as weird, uncool, etc. I have pretty good social intuition yet borderline social skills. My family often calls me rude this is mostly, due to me not believing in a lot of "rules" they expect me to follow. Like saying please before asking a waiter to get me water, in my view its there job so why should I?

I need to unwind again and let go of those women... But I'm taken steps even if I don't know where I'm going. I went to that girls party (if you remember my thread) and had fun. I focused on simply dancing to the beat and having fun, ignored the women. Danced with people and by myself on the floor, it was great. Still I wanted to dance with a girl during the slow song, yet was content dancing with the guys in our giant sway circle. More guys than girls and none of the girls really danced with guys. I think that is like a glimpse of indifference being fine either way. Yet had I approached I would have lost my indifference for fear of rejection and looking bad in front of others.

Besides doing stuff you liked how did you guys fully get rid of this fake needing women?

Honestly the pivotal point for me was when I bought an escort and knew that I could have women whenever I wanted..but it felt so empty I knew that truly it wasn't what I wanted.

I still want women just like you and everyone else it's human. And normal.

The only difference between us is while you look at the end result sex being the goal and feeling bad if you don't get it. I look at getting attention however subtle being all I need.

All these women front on me, just like you. But I can see how badly they want me and the enormous amounts of self-restraint they have to exercise to not try to rape me lol. Like the ones in my close social circle or that I bump into through friends add me no doubt to keep tabs. Which is hilarious.

My self acceptance/belief combined with the fact that I know I'm a highly attractive option and them subtly jocking the crap out of me creates tasty gruel with all the vitamins my psyche needs as opposed to steak (sex)

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"The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man. Even so, who can know him."

Sex isn't the steak...the steak is the illusion that you have to cater to them to GET sex.

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Oops, should have mentioned that. Didn't even think of it

That's what I meant though

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"The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man. Even so, who can know him."

Yeah seeing the jocking really shapes a lot of my self-esteem. I feel disappointed that none of the girls turned into anything serious. This is something I have to constantly let go of, the approval and belief by friends and family. My friends being able to use you've never had a girlfriend or why aren't you going to the dance... Sure one girl I liked asked indirectly or felt me out. Or she wanted to know what kind of girl I went with. She said I'm far more attracted than the boy she went with... Last time I saw her her eyes were in love with me... But still nothing materializes... yet.

Your right, I can get excitement merely from jocking and toying with them. Reminds me of somebody saying they view all interactions as experiments.

One girl I know I ought to talk to is objectively a 9 in my subjective opinion lol... She likes me a lot and pursues me (not outside of work), but we rarely see each other (maybe once a month now, yet due to change during the Holidays). She said hi when I came to punch in, opening up space for me to talk to her. I merely said hi and ignored her the rest (I'm so cool in indifferent I don't care that I care!! Not really lol...) We were in close proximity and I know what I wanted and felt I should do. Just teasing her would excite me because I value beauty so much. Yeah listening to my gut is something I don't do well.

Normal, the reason they don't act is they know you not going anywhere...and they aren't either.

On a base level once you own your shit you'll realize if you look closely that their games have nothing to do with you. It's not your fault if they wanna gamble with the best thing that could happen to them. Let em, you don't need them anyways.

Own what's yours and fuck what is their shit.

They're all so fucked lol, and they don't even really realize it. They think they'll just enjoy their power trips in their 20's and then lock down a rich guy when they hit 30.

Your in high school right? A lot of these girls that wouldn't even give me the time of day/openly disrespected me I have them on Facebook. Watching Marquee Value shift lol, is hilarious. Watch for subtle signs of the tide changing if you still feel disappointment, your not missing out they are. The value has shifted so drastically in 3 years 90%+ wouldn't have enough value in my eyes to be worth having as a girlfriend.

Your like a steal on a real estate investment, the disappointment will be all theirs when they realize the market value has surpassed their buying power.

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"The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man. Even so, who can know him."

Well put. Thank you for this. Powerful. Not to mention that, even if they "lock down a rich guy", the view from your real estate is the only type that could ever have brought them lasting fulfillment......

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"I will not grow in the light, until I pass through the darkest caverns of my heart..."

"Temet Nosce"

Now this is the Morpheus I want to see more of in the future

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In building a statue, a sculptor doesn't keep adding clay to his subject.He keeps chiseling away at the inessentials until the truth of its creation is revealed without obstructions. Perfection is not when there is no more to add,but no more to take away.

Yeah...that was pretty damn righteous.

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

Pimposophy Revisited is now finally available on Amazon in all territories!

Yes and no. There's a lot of factors that go into deciding if someone is a suitable mate...whereas a guys first impression is based almost entirely on how likely it is that she would have have healthy offspring.

Think of it like a checklist, some of it is subconscious. The subconscious stuff is what nature is saying is good in a mate. Like health and all the tangibles that a solid mindset bring into play.

One thing that lead to a profound insight the other day is. I was out and there was this group of guys and a girl who was obviously attracted to them but didn't really realize it. It's like the interactions were in 3 levels.

Verbal
Conscious Body Language ie. I'm the more alpha, I have more social value, I have the bigger ego.
True Subconcious= reaction to enviornment without the interference ego.

Seeing that made me realize, that was really what I wanted. A girl who just goes with it and doesn't let all that stupid social shit fuck them up... that's attractive. Those manipulative games and shit...actually the hugest turn off ever.

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"The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man. Even so, who can know him."

When a female approaches me or gives me any kind of contact(eye,physical) ?...Answer: (while its happening in my mind)= "i understand"...obviously why she is doing what she is doing. Do i go over there an approach her , hell no. That would defeat the purpose of her glory looking at me . I want her to enjoy everything that she sees. Remember that female you wanted to fuck so badly but couldnt cus she just looked so mysterious she looked like she was doing her thing, and all you wanted was some ass. She would bend over, lift weights , everything, its all natural. Women dont say oh let me get those jeans over there so i can show off my ass. ALL jeans show off there ass so they dont have to do that. Two weeks ago i went to a nearby club. I was there by myself. Standing alone on the dance floor by myself. As soon as i get in. I just stand there. Im not looking around nor am i doing anything that shows like im not interested in what i am doing, nor if i am in any "lack" state of mind. This guy approaches me and says hey my friend wants to dance with you. I said ok. I left a half hour later to go to another club. I saw them again. This time i felt alittle bit aggressive. Went up to her held out my hand, a tad bit bent over. She got the picture. Said oooo oo smiling like a little girl. I knew she was going to take her time being in her europhoric state. I instantly took her hand and pulled her by me. Started dancing grinding etc. I noticed the best times i have is when im not in "need". My best times are when i am exploring and feeling myself.