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Author:  Altair [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:24 pm ]
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This night went pretty much like the last few, I've got these situations pretty much down to a science at this point 8-) there's a couple small things I'm tweaking but other than that...

I've got to the point where I'm not really liking drinking on anymore and I wanna put on some more muscle anyways so drinking has to go. So I still go out whenever I want I just DD and am sober the whole time.

Anyways I'm walking in not even down the stairs yet. And this girl and her friend roll up

Them;Do you have condoms?
Me: Lol, no
Them; Really? your lieing
Me: Lol (I was pretty much done with the convo at this point)
Then they asked for my number, I gave it to them. They were kinda cute, I kinda felt they were just looking for attention but hey that took no effort on my part.

They haven't texted me and probably won't..but who really cares.

Umm there was lots and lots of jocking, which has pretty much become normal at this point. The only real thing of note with that was as I was walking by this one girl dropped her head fixed her hair and really obviously moved in so she could brush my shoulder as she went by.

I turned and smiled at her but didn't approach it had something to do with my ego. She was upfront so I should have been upfront with her, I dislike when people try to play games with me.

I'm not stuck in that hard unattractive vibe but I'm noticing I am really begin to expect a certain level of treatment and level of interest when I go out. Like having girls try to buy me drinks and just roll up with the white flag is supposed to happen.

So I'll kinda be a dick in a sense, like cocky and a little bit arrogant almost.

Anyways my friends were chasing girls around, so rather than 5th wheel it I pulled up a seat and this one girl eyed me for like literally 5 seconds and then turned around and was walking by so I grabbed her arm gently.

Me: Hey
Her: Hey
Introductions

We chilled for a bit and then she grabbed my number and split.

Her: Come here.
Me: Don't wanna
Her: Come on it will be fun
Me: You'll have to drag me
Her: Where are you?
Me: At the back end of the bar

She came back and tried her best to persaude me even did the puppy eyes lol. When she finally gave up I was like ok lets go.

At the end she was like do I get a hug and I was like I don't know do you? She said that's up to you :)

So I gave her a hug and said text me, she said she would and then she actually did. It was nice not getting fronted on. :mrgreen:

She made a point of asking me to hang out and when I was free...so yeah this is pretty much a done deal.

The biggest thing that I changed tonight is that I will no longer even offer to give my number out. They have to ask for it.

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:18 pm ]
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Good things happen to those who wait...it's amazing to see your transformation. :geek:

Author:  fufe [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:05 pm ]
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And seeing this gives ultrasceptical guys like me a proof it's possible.. Seeing is believing and I see the change in your posts..
:)

Author:  Altair [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:18 pm ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
Good things happen to those who wait...it's amazing to see your transformation. :geek:
Thanks man :) , had a good teacher.
fufe wrote:
And seeing this gives ultrasceptical guys like me a proof it's possible.. Seeing is believing and I see the change in your posts..
:)
Yeah, you'll never truely believe it until you actually do it though. I'm still like does it really work this way? Weird.

Author:  Altair [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:33 pm ]
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Another funny part of it is...everything I say or do is premediated but it's completely new to them. So theyre like wow, this is so different...but I do the exact same thing every time lol

The downside is that it's kinda boring. I know exactly how all the situations play out there's no mystery...no excitement really. I very rarely fall for a girl and if I do it's for like half a day and then I'm like oh right, fuck that. I've really truely traded places with women where as usually the guy has all the excitement and mystery I've given it to them. :geek:

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:50 pm ]
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fufe wrote:
And seeing this gives ultrasceptical guys like me a proof it's possible.. Seeing is believing and I see the change in your posts..
:)
Shut up...go somewhere and do some push-ups. :twisted:
Quote:
The downside is that it's kinda boring. I know exactly how all the situations play out there's no mystery...no excitement really. I very rarely fall for a girl and if I do it's for like half a day and then I'm like oh right, fuck that. I've really truely traded places with women where as usually the guy has all the excitement and mystery I've given it to them.
Ahhhhh...you're moving right along then. This is where you find something else to get excited about. Me personally, I'm horrible with timetables...something I think might take a year tends to happen in 2 weeks, or vice versa. So, I get my surprise and amazement kicks from not knowing exactly how long it might take a chick to stop fronting and throw it at me, how long to make a move, etc. 8-)

Author:  GoldenBoy [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:56 pm ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
fufe wrote:
And seeing this gives ultrasceptical guys like me a proof it's possible.. Seeing is believing and I see the change in your posts..
:)
Shut up...go somewhere and do some push-ups. :twisted:
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:lol: :lol:

Author:  Star_Above [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:06 pm ]
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Good shit Morpheus!

Author:  Altair [ Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:35 am ]
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Star_Above wrote:
Good shit Morpheus!
Thanks bro 8-)

So this girl asked me to come see a movie with her ( she paid). I just feel kinda mislead though, like last night I was like yeah this girl is alright looking. But today without the tonnes if make up and such I was kinda like yeah this isn't really doing it for me.

How do I let her down easy?

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:10 am ]
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Morpheus wrote:
Star_Above wrote:
Good shit Morpheus!
Thanks bro 8-)

So this girl asked me to come see a movie with her ( she paid). I just feel kinda mislead though, like last night I was like yeah this girl is alright looking. But today without the tonnes if make up and such I was kinda like yeah this isn't really doing it for me.

How do I let her down easy?
I'm drunk...FUCK that bitch haha

Author:  Altair [ Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:27 am ]
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You lost me lol

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:31 am ]
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Morpheus wrote:
You lost me lol
I mean...fuck her feelings...do you. :geek:

Author:  Altair [ Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:42 am ]
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Lol, did you mean your drunk? haha

Yeah, guess I'm just not completely comfortable with this newfound power...her friends are hot though how do I friendzone her without her getting mad and leaving.

I'm indifferent either way, but this could be fun :evil:

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:46 am ]
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Morpheus wrote:
Lol, did you mean your drunk? haha

Yeah, guess I'm just not completely comfortable with this newfound power...her friends are hot though how do I friendzone her without her getting mad and leaving.

I'm indifferent either way, but this could be fun :evil:
Man I'm toasty...basically just put her in the friend zone like a chick would do you...then proceed lol

Author:  Altair [ Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:58 am ]
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But do I explicitly say we are only friends

Or do I drop clues till she gets it

Author:  peregrinus [ Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:55 am ]
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Morpheus wrote:
But do I explicitly say we are only friends

Or do I drop clues till she gets it
Morpheus, oh Morpheus.

What a place to be in. :D

What a conundrum. :geek:

How short a time ago did you think this would not happen to you, you would be happy with a girl.

Now you are developing standards that the girls have to meet. If she isn't doing it for you, she isn't doing it for you, pure and simple. BRAVO!!!!

You can either be gentle a drop hints (like some girls do) or be brutally honest (like some girls do). It all comes down to saying 'NO' in the end. How you want to do that is up to you, it will evolve over time, however the method with affect the result it has on her.. How much you care about that affects your method.

Yeha, Kidd did sound toasty in his responses, guess the party went well ;)

Author:  Altair [ Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:37 am ]
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Yeah, my standards are pretty shallow though lol. I was attracted initially to her when she was covered in make up etc. There were so so many girls to choose from, I kinda feel like she wasted my time.

I think my standards will evolve more in time but like right now I pretty much only care about looks. There's some awesome positives but there's also some negatives.

I'm getting a lot of attention which I like, but it's not always the attention I want. And I cannot cloak it, like with guys I can go under their radar by toning down my body language a bit. But if I do that my energy still shines through and women pick it up.

It's funny like you said not too long ago I'd have girls even half paying attention to me and be excited about it. Now half the time I don't even want their attention really. The more they chase me the less I care creating even more space though haha.

The other thing too is it's like I'm playing with cheats I cannot lose. I can try to estimate timelines and such but it feels like the game is mostly solved.

If a guy just off the street heard these problems he'd be like wtf? How soon we forget lol.

Yeah Kidd!! sounded like he had a good time haha, never heard the term toasty before lol.

Author:  fufe [ Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:49 pm ]
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Morpheus wrote:
Yeah, my standards are pretty shallow though lol. I was attracted initially to her when she was covered in make up etc. There were so so many girls to choose from, I kinda feel like she wasted my time.
She didn't finish how she started :| :lol:

Author:  peregrinus [ Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:02 pm ]
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fufe wrote:
Morpheus wrote:
Yeah, my standards are pretty shallow though lol. I was attracted initially to her when she was covered in make up etc. There were so so many girls to choose from, I kinda feel like she wasted my time.
She didn't finish how she started :| :lol:
Exactly.

Now consider how many women go through those exact feelings that Morpheus is going through now.

When the 'mask' slips aside and they realise that the man they thought they were with is not there with them.

Author:  Altair [ Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:09 pm ]
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I was actually thinking about that.

It's interesting to observe things from this side. Like all of the things that women complain about in men I see them do to me sometimes in varying degrees but pretty much always there.

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