Natural Freedom

Hey guys,

A short summary on my last 3 weeks - I started college, got to know a few girls, and disregarded everything I've learned here ("Hey, I'm seeing some signs of attraction, wohoah!"). Now that I've finally gotten my head straight though and actually begun to see what I've learned in a new light, I've become indifferent on a whole other level.

The funny thing is, I actually see through the bullshit girls pull. I see how bitchy they act, how badly fucked their perception is, how self-entitled they think they are, and how they basically care only and only about themselves. I know this is supposed to be human nature, but I can't see it with the guys in my dorm.

So now, I'm completely disenchanted from women. We usually have parties in our room (cleaning up in the morning sucks), which leads to all guys dancing up on girls, while I'm sitting down, and thinking "Why would I want to?". I'm legit scared about this behavior, as it seems that almost all of my sexual drive has basically disappeared. To use a very crude metaphor that is way too drastic- it's like I'm the dude that's discovered what Hitler's all about while the rest of Germany is waving their flags and screaming for joy when he starts talking. I feel like I just can't connect to this area of interaction.

There's girls sitting on my bed while I'm sipping tea, and I find I can't even strike up a conversation. Not out of fear, but out of a complete lack of wanting to. Meanwhile the other guys are poking fun at them, joking around and having fun with them. And I feel like I don't want to...at ALL. And I'm scared of this. Is this normal? I don't want to become some social outcast that can't talk to women because he's uncovered their "secret". Or, in other words, I feel like I'm overreacting to something that shouldn't be phasing me. But it does, and now I don't care about them. But I kind of feel like I should.

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Take it easy, man. But take it.

It will pass...it's just part of the calibration process.

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

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If you see it with girls, you should see it with guys too (their whiny tricks when women test them and they fail to shut them up, their needy behaviour, their intentions as clear as if it was written on their heads)
Bold part : STORY OF MY LIFE.
I'm not disenchanted from women though, it's just I don't want to be / do / say anything that's not congruent JUST for girls or anyone else for that matter. Can't it be your case ?
Bold part : See Ultimate goal in my opinion - connected sex
Loved the metaphor, have used it before (women HATE/can't understand context - comedy note : Black Phillip show ep 13 is a perfect example of context - he talks about the dog whisperer and women are like "he's comparing us to dogs ..." )
Still haven't find any solution to that, appart from not talking when you don't feel like to.
If you find one pm me
Yep, it starts for me.



On a side note:

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"You can tell a lot about a person by how they react when someone dies." - Charlie Kirk

I understand how you feel, I'm not as far into the journey as you are but I find somedays I want nothing to do with women, I see the things they do and it just makes me glad I'm taking small steps along the road to indifference. However some days I fell like being a total symp, I just have to fight my mind wanting me to symp because I now know its just the way society has influenced me. I'm hoping it gets easier and that the more I learn the better my attitude will become. I think its all about momentum its hard to start with and you will struggle and maybe stop like me, but hopefully you can push through and gain enough momentum so that it becomes natural. Its similar to a negative thought, it just spirals and grows so easily, you just have to learn how to keep moving towards your goal, no matter how slowly.

Why do you feel as though you should?

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In building a statue, a sculptor doesn't keep adding clay to his subject.He keeps chiseling away at the inessentials until the truth of its creation is revealed without obstructions. Perfection is not when there is no more to add,but no more to take away.

I believe the reason you feel as though you should may be down to simple socialisation. We're conditioned to want to be a part of a group. You see everyone acting one way, and feel as though they may judge you for not conforming. THEY WILL JUDGE YOU, because they are as conditioned as fuck. But trust me, if you have your shit together, relax and act congruently with how you feel, then you will stand out. But the key is relaxation as you sip on that tea. Do what YOU want. Inevitably, doing the opposite of the other guys will have more far reaching consequences for you. This is where patience becomes your friend, because you know what's coming to you...

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All is more simple than you make it.

about the sexual drive pactically disapearing i remember what David Wygant said "can she turn you on?" so i still feel the desire to do some investment(like wanting her attention) but why if i don't have too much sex desire and it is pointlees anyway it just fils the space

Don't get it twisted dude, it's true on both sides of the fence. The only difference is dudes are either acting like douchebags or total pussies. It's very rare to come across a man that IS an actual full grown, mature MAN that has his shit together and doesn't act like a child. Men have grown into complete retards and it's a sad sad thing. Most men in this world give men a bad name. You should see some of the text messages I read that girls show me. It's fucking pathetic and also borderline sexual harassment. I see guys sending text after text to a girl who isn't responding to them at all confessing how much they want them or want to take them out on a date. It's really bad. Hot women deal with this on a regular basis and I don't blame them for acting like bitches to these fucking losers and I mean that. It's truly pathetic how some guys act. So maybe think about that for a little bit.

At least your seeing through the bullshit but don't get having fun confused with it. Your suppose to have a good time around good looking girls. I mean if your not feeling it that night then whatever. I have alot of nights where i don't want to do anything and just want to be alone.

Don't take this living in or outside the matrix stuff too seriously. Cause then what your doing is your telling yourself that your outside of the matrix and then you come up with all these other beliefs that your telling yourself are outside of the matrix when what your really doing is still living in the matrix cause your still believing in a bunch of bullshit lol that sounds crazy. But seriously, if you start doing stuff like that your going to take all the joy out of your life and your never going to be able to realize your full potential.

But the fact that you were just chilling out staying quiet while all your friends were trying to flirt or whatever makes you different from them which is good. Those chicks were most likely very curious about you. But your energy was closed off so they probably weren't sure if they would have had a chance with you. It's not something to be scared of that you didn't feel like talking to them. You need to get your confidence up though man and start enjoying it and living it.

It's hard to get excited about fucking the female member of your species once you understand that due to their nature coupled with constant social programming, that they are out to fuck you even HARDER.

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

Pimposophy Revisited is now finally available on Amazon in all territories!

The only thing that matters is how you feel internally. That's it and its not difficult to figure out. Once you have your inner game together the outer world responds to you and it takes care of itself. Women will magnetized to you. Truth

So true.

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"The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man. Even so, who can know him."

My grandfather told me once, when he was young he was in a pub somewhere and there was a girl, every guy hit on her, got blown own, he laughed and watched with amusement. Later he ends up with her alone somewhere else and she tells him "You didn't approach me or talk to me, you are so different from these guys, why ?" etc, you can imagine the rest

My Grandfather was most probably a pimp when he was young

^^ THIS!!!

and of course, this:

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In building a statue, a sculptor doesn't keep adding clay to his subject.He keeps chiseling away at the inessentials until the truth of its creation is revealed without obstructions. Perfection is not when there is no more to add,but no more to take away.

Thanks a lot for the replies, a lot of things to think about.
Great. What should I focus on/not focus on to get past this phase? Or is it something that just happens?
Because I see my friends being genuinely excited about being around women, which is something been missing on my end. It's what Mikey swag said, I close myself off. It's what Rolan mentioned as well, these dudes both do and don't look like they care, while I feel like I'm just closing myself off and being dismissive, not doing what I'd really want.


Tbh, I still haven't accepted this, and it's not the reason I don't talk to them.

Confusing, all of this.

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Take it easy, man. But take it.

That is your conscious mind speaking...I'd stake my reputation that your subconscious doesn't agree with you...wanna take that bet?

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

Pimposophy Revisited is now finally available on Amazon in all territories!

I would've taken that bet before reading my own quote. Wow. And to think I thought it was the other way around (me consciously trying to be indifferent while deep down I was this needy insecure person). This opened a lot of doors.

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Take it easy, man. But take it.

Word to the wise...in regards to anything remotely dealing with this forum's topics, don't EVEN consider taking any bets with me.

Glad you are seeing more of the light.

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

Pimposophy Revisited is now finally available on Amazon in all territories!

Just curious. If you had to assign a number to your knowledge as compared to the average member on the forum what would it be

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"The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man. Even so, who can know him."

Ummmm geez I dunno...infinity?

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

Pimposophy Revisited is now finally available on Amazon in all territories!

another topic i find very insightful.

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Laying on the floor in a pool of blood and cum
My demons lay beside as I kiss them one by one
Then on that day I met a force that nothing will compare
I was born the son of evil when I fuck the devil there!