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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:24 am 
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Most of us already know this but for new guys that are coming in I need to emphasize this since it is so important....

This concept was named 'relational mastery' by Rion, but the name does not matter....
what you have to do is:

Get off all the programs that tell you women are above you and that you are a loser.
That means:

no more wussy songs, wussy movies, MTV music videos, wussy TV shows (where the women are the prize and the man is the loser who needs to work hard to get them or please them).

These things affect your subconscience mind whether you realize it or not....

I always mute the commercials on TV too cause most of them are about men being wussies
or trying to convince me to buy stuff I don't need.

Getting off porn is also important though not easy.
I sometimes fall into it once in a while but not often (like I used too...)

also check out this post regarding this subject:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=403

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:23 pm 
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So, your saying that negative programming weighs us down and stops us, for that to be true then the inverse would also have to be true. Positive programming alone would have to be enough to make us successful..right?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:37 pm 
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You're being programmed with something at all times. Everyone has an inner voice. The idea is to lessen the extent of the programming by others and to maximize the positive programming you give yourself.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:37 pm 
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Morpheus wrote:
So, your saying that negative programming weighs us down and stops us, for that to be true then the inverse would also have to be true. Positive programming alone would have to be enough to make us successful..right?


Yes, however I see Positive programming as more than watching the right TV shows, listening to alpha state music or watching videos of natural alpha models.

The way I see it, 'Positive programming' is to also know your strength as a man And understand the relational dynamics in your own culture\country.

let me explain by an example:
I know a guy who was always a ladies man and he does not know anything about seduction community. He is not that great looking, smart or rich so it's not his 'external' value.
the reason he was successful is because he grew up with 4 sisters and was in good relationship with them (so he knew about the real nature of women because of that- I suppose).

His father was a ladies man and told him a lot of stories on how he used to shag women and how he did it :lol:

And his father always told him that he is a sexy mother fucker and that he deserves to shag many women (since his father told him that so many times from a young age- this belief became a part of who he is).

His father also taught him 'inner game' stuff like: don't put women on a pedestal and not to chase or court them.....

So getting off the negative programing is only the first step, the next step would be to have a strong inner game or natural game (whatever you want to call it, it does not matter).

Strong inner\natural game is what people like The Kidd, Corry Sky and David X are teaching.
Some would say Zan also teaches it but I think Zan's teachings (although some of it is good)
have lack of practical advise on how to change from the inside.
If one does not beleive he deserves beautiful women, does not know how to read subtle signs or puts women on a pedestal- he can smile and wink his whole life just to see very little to No results.... :|

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:40 pm 
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Yes, but positive programming never helped me..its helped increase my confidence and social skills yes..but I've noticed more of the effects on myself since I stopped all that stuff. I have some issues to work on yes but I dont think that inner work is gonna help me move beyond that in the slightest. It's served its purpose like all the searching that Neo did before finding the red pill..but when he found it he did need to rely on it anymore. Awareness is what we need, and once we can see the problem which is thinking that we are the problem there is no need for it anymore, external "helpful programming" is the thing holding us back because it relies on the premise that we are the problem to begin with. Its coming from the wrong frame of reality.

The real problem is handing over your balls, and once you've realized that then you take them back, it's really that simple. Not to mention as Create said you'll never get away from societal programming its everywhere you spend much more time with society programming then you could ever on positive work unless you lived in isolation lol

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:03 am 
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Morpheus wrote:
Yes, but positive programming never helped me..its helped increase my confidence and social skills yes..but I've noticed more of the effects on myself since I stopped all that stuff. I have some issues to work on yes but I dont think that inner work is gonna help me move beyond that in the slightest. It's served its purpose like all the searching that Neo did before finding the red pill..but when he found it he did need to rely on it anymore. Awareness is what we need, and once we can see the problem which is thinking that we are the problem there is no need for it anymore, external "helpful programming" is the thing holding us back because it relies on the premise that we are the problem to begin with. Its coming from the wrong frame of reality.

The real problem is handing over your balls, and once you've realized that then you take them back, it's really that simple. Not to mention as Create said you'll never get away from societal programming its everywhere you spend much more time with society programming then you could ever on positive work unless you lived in isolation lol


Well, I see what you are saying so let me elaborate a bit.
I don't use affirmations as a 'Band-Aid' they are a supplement to inner core work (by inner core work I mean taking out stuff from the root).
I also don't use affirmations such as: all women want me (something I know is not true, even though it's me :lol: )
I use affirmations that target the area that I feel I need to work on And only after I went to the root of the problem (Sedona method helps me with that).

Now I know the social matrix is everywhere however, 5 days ago I have found something that gives me the bulletproof shield. I'm still testing it so I don't post about yet until I'm 100% sure that the results are permanent.

But soon I'll know and if it continues to work well I'll post about it 8-)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:18 am 
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I'm interested even if it turns out that it doesn't work :)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:00 pm 
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I can get sex any time I want. All I need is about €50, risk STDs and AIDS but at least I finally get my blowjob.
TWO F*CKIN' YEARS!!!
Where's The Kidd, what am I doing wrong?! Is it aim or something? Although Ocular Sex does sound good...

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:36 pm 
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You are most likely doing great at something, aztecs, but are
you working on the right Limiting Belief when it comes to BlowJobs?

The thing I´ve noticed is, day after I´ve been with a woman,
the next day, more women want to approach me. Reality tries to
permanently shift, you see more and more evidence and soon
your Beliefs will become Knowledge, and you just start living
it. The next time you see evidence, make yourself really
comfortable with it.

Try to get into a comfort zone of really being with these beautiful
women upfront and it will become your Reality. You can make the choice
to live your Life with ease. Women come really easily, I MEAN REALLY
EASILY AND MERRILY TO YOU
, not through some struggle. Ease up man!
Not because of sex, but because of you and her, which is a better reason.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:08 pm 
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Aztecsfinest wrote:
I can get sex any time I want. All I need is about €50, risk STDs and AIDS but at least I finally get my blowjob.
TWO F*CKIN' YEARS!!!
Where's The Kidd, what am I doing wrong?! Is it aim or something? Although Ocular Sex does sound good...


What happened to you exactly Aztech to get like this? do you know?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:16 pm 
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Jared wrote:
The thing I´ve noticed is, day after I´ve been with a woman,
the next day, more women want to approach me.

This is because for that time it no longer matters.

You are not chasing or thinking of chasing as you are sated.

Together with the fact that they can SMELL it on you, it oozes out of you.

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peregrinus wrote:
Jared wrote:
The thing I´ve noticed is, day after I´ve been with a woman,
the next day, more women want to approach me.

This is because for that time it no longer matters.

You are not chasing or thinking of chasing as you are sated.

Together with the fact that they can SMELL it on you, it oozes out of you.


Yes, and I think it´s got much to do with Reality Code itself; that what a person
does, he will end up doing more of it.
Think of successful/unsuccessful people in
overall, successful people can go broke, but soon they make another fortune.

And an unsuccessful people stay unsuccessful unless they do something about it.
(grow in awareness, like the successful people did.)

Laws of Habit will take care of your success.

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