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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:44 am 
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Jared wrote:
Morning measurements, yesterday 31.7.2013

Height 184cm
Weight 86kg
Waist 80cm

Fat ??? (No means available right now)



update
Doing good w/ the program. Could be
eating more. The most amazing part
is that my strength is increasing faster
than I imagined.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:11 pm 
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You guys might not see it as "fitness", but I have lost roughly 75 pounds since November by becoming vegan. I was breaking the scale at 300 lbs. Trying to get down to 200 by the end of the year.

No exercise needed, mind you.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:13 pm 
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The Pokemon Trainer wrote:
You guys might not see it as "fitness", but I have lost roughly 75 pounds since November by becoming vegan. I was breaking the scale at 300 lbs. Trying to get down to 200 by the end of the year.

No exercise needed, mind you.


How much would you attribute to eating healthier in general compared to cutting out meat/dairy/eggs?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:40 pm 
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moose35 wrote:
The Pokemon Trainer wrote:
You guys might not see it as "fitness", but I have lost roughly 75 pounds since November by becoming vegan. I was breaking the scale at 300 lbs. Trying to get down to 200 by the end of the year.

No exercise needed, mind you.


How much would you attribute to eating healthier in general compared to cutting out meat/dairy/eggs?


moose35 wrote:
The Pokemon Trainer wrote:
You guys might not see it as "fitness", but I have lost roughly 75 pounds since November by becoming vegan. I was breaking the scale at 300 lbs. Trying to get down to 200 by the end of the year.

No exercise needed, mind you.


How much would you attribute to eating healthier in general compared to cutting out meat/dairy/eggs?


Honestly, it's hard to say. I guess it depends on what you mean by "eating healthier". It's a bit vague.

I've tried Body for Life, Atkins, Warrior Diet, calorie restriction, juice fasting, periodic fasting... Veganism is the only thing that has gotten me such good results with so little effort, and the main difference is the fact that, with the obvious exception of fasting, Veganism is the only diet I've tried that doesn't permit animal products.

Removing animal products from your diet, for the most part, leaves only low fat, low calorie density foods as your remaining food sources. Corn, potatoes, pasta, breads, fruits and veggies are all quite nutritious and you can eat quite a lot and still lose weight.

Cutting out animal products basically means that all the unhealthy shitty food temptations that break dieters aren't an option even in small amounts; cake, ice cream, most forms of pizza, Chinese takeout, Mexican, chips, fried fish, most breakfast cereals, doughnuts... None of it even exists as far as a vegan is concerned.

You also aren't tempted to eat out or do social eating because most restaurants aren't vegan friendly.

I'm not really sure why it worked for me, but it did. I know the absence of animal products made a difference, but I'm not sure why exactly. All I can do is speculate.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:31 pm 
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The Pokemon Trainer wrote:
You guys might not see it as "fitness", but I have lost roughly 75 pounds since November by becoming vegan. I was breaking the scale at 300 lbs. Trying to get down to 200 by the end of the year.

No exercise needed, mind you.

I am sure it has increased your fitness, being lighter.

also undoubtedly it has improved your health.

Most notably is the mental effect it has had on you.

Look up the definition of fitness in a dictionary, then compare to what society tells you it is.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:30 am 
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peregrinus wrote:
The Pokemon Trainer wrote:
You guys might not see it as "fitness", but I have lost roughly 75 pounds since November by becoming vegan. I was breaking the scale at 300 lbs. Trying to get down to 200 by the end of the year.

No exercise needed, mind you.

I am sure it has increased your fitness, being lighter.

also undoubtedly it has improved your health.

Most notably is the mental effect it has had on you.

Look up the definition of fitness in a dictionary, then compare to what society tells you it is.


Muscles are what burn calories.

(Pssst; Did you know that the penis has fat around its root.
When you have a decent fat% your penis is longer due to
fat loss.) :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:50 am 
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Jared wrote:
Muscles are what burn calories.


Let's set the record straight.

Our metabolism, often known as resting metabolic rate (RMR), is driven by muscle but not the muscle we work on in the gym. It is driven by our vital organs. The combined energy expenditure of the heart, lungs, kidneys, brain and liver represent approximately 80% of the TDEE (total daily energy expenditure). Muscle tissue contributes approximately 20% to TDEE, whereas fat tissue contributes approximately 5% (for individuals with about 20% body fat).
Apparently, the amount of muscle we can put on our biceps our our chest is going to have little impact in the big picture.
http://www.ideafit.com/fitness-library/ ... tabolism-0

Pokemon Trainer,

Remember that veganism is not a “diet” per see, it is simply a philosophy that includes dietary restrictions. Veganism is clear on exactly what not to eat (animal products), but not so clear on exactly what to eat! A vegan diet and its restrictions per se are not always healthy. For example, one can live on potato chips, French fries and ketchup and still be a “vegan”, but is that healthy?

A vegan and/or vegetarian diet in and of itself, does not automatically equate to a healthy diet. Regardless of dietary preference, the principles of a healthy lifestyle and diet must be followed. Eliminating animal products in not a clear cut assurance of dietary excellence or optimal health. There are other lifestyle-related factors that must also be followed in relation to activity/exercise, nicotine and alcohol that may be as important, if not more important, than the changes in diet.
http://www.drmcdougall.com/forums/viewt ... 22&t=15087

While a healthy therapeutic diet will include little to any animal products, it is much more than a diet that has little to any animal products in it. It is also a diet that is low in fat, sat fat, omega 6's, cholesterol, added sugars, added salt/sodium, added oil, and refined grains and processed foods. It is also a diet that is high in unrefined and minimally processed foods that are rich in naturally occurring fiber and nutrients, all in the proper amounts and ratio's.
http://www.drmcdougall.com/forums/viewt ... 22&t=36550

The principles of healthy eating and a healthy lifestyle in general are simple. Whether you follow them or not depends on your level of intelligence and self-worth.
http://www.drmcdougall.com/forums/viewt ... ep#p380957

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:09 pm 
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peregrinus wrote:

I am sure it has increased your fitness, being lighter.

also undoubtedly it has improved your health.

Look up the definition of fitness in a dictionary, then compare to what society tells you it is.


Not being a total fatass has been great. This has been one of the most sweat-free summers in recent memory. I don't get winded anymore, and I don't wear out new shoes in a month. When I started, my forehead had tons of pimples on it and I was likely on the verge of acne. Now, I seldom get a blemish.

Only downside is that I had to buy a new wardrobe. I've lost so much weight that my old clothes ridiculous on me.

If you mean fitness in the Darwinian sense, then yes, I am much more fit to be sure.

peregrinus wrote:

Most notably is the mental effect it has had on you.


What has stood out to you in this regard? I'm curious about your perspective.

I'm sure you've noticed a change; I've practically begun life anew. New diet, new philosophies... I'm much happier and healthier overall. The Path of Pimp Tightness, Epicureianism, Veganism and Atheism have enriched my life immensely. I face every day with a quiet sense of optimism and excitement. A long shot from the miserable shell of a person I was not long ago...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:34 pm 
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Jared wrote:
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(Pssst; Did you know that the penis has fat around its root.
When you have a decent fat% your penis is longer due to
fat loss.) :lol:


Yeah, know.

Shit is cash.

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PMT wrote:
What has stood out to you in this regard? I'm curious about your perspective.


I have definitely noticed the same thing. Not clear how much of the change in your writing is due to mental progress which has also led you to make physical progress, vs. physical progress actually changing your mental state.

I would say that you're more measured and well-thought in your posts. You seem to be a bit less reactionary especially when people disagree with you, and you take things more lightly. You seem much less egoic, and you seem to have a greater calmness about you that belies a greater self-confidence. People that are really self confident and are their own best friends don't get ruffled easily, don't get riled up, stay much more serene, even in the face of challenges.

Anyway, thats my 2 cents. :D

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Meraki wrote:
PMT wrote:
What has stood out to you in this regard? I'm curious about your perspective.


I have definitely noticed the same thing. Not clear how much of the change in your writing is due to mental progress which has also led you to make physical progress, vs. physical progress actually changing your mental state.


I would also be curious to know that. I'm not really sure.

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I would say that you're more measured and well-thought in your posts. You seem to be a bit less reactionary especially when people disagree with you, and you take things more lightly. You seem much less egoic, and you seem to have a greater calmness about you that belies a greater self-confidence. People that are really self confident and are their own best friends don't get ruffled easily, don't get riled up, stay much more serene, even in the face of challenges.

Anyway, thats my 2 cents. :D


To be honest, I hadn't really noticed how much my confidence has grown until recently. There are some people who say "Wow, PKMN, I couldn't move to South Korea" and "I could never do what you're doing" or sometimes just straight up "I wish I was as confident as you". I don't really feel especially confident, yet I am. Sort of hard to explain.

I do have quite a large ego still, but it's definitely on the backburner these days. I'm the parent and the ego is the obedient child. Even so, sometimes the ego misbehaves and needs to be put in the corner for a time out. This seems to have become less necessary over time, thankfully. This control of my ego has allowed me to become more open to others and less defensive. I mean, sometimes creepers raise the barriers but I no longer block out people for trivial reasons like I used to. The lessons learned from my most recent incident in my last thread has been helpful in preventing the erection of needless ego defenders as of late.

I have calmed way down versus just a couple of years ago. I think much more critically and logically than I used to, and I have a much better grip on my emotions.

Not to mention my mood is way better. I feel pretty damn good most of the time.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:08 am 
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The Pokemon Trainer wrote:
I do have quite a large ego still, but it's definitely on the backburner these days. I'm the parent and the ego is the obedient child. Even so, sometimes the ego misbehaves and needs to be put in the corner for a time out. This seems to have become less necessary over time, thankfully. This control of my ego has allowed me to become more open to others and less defensive. I mean, sometimes creepers raise the barriers but I no longer block out people for trivial reasons like I used to. The lessons learned from my most recent incident in my last thread has been helpful in preventing the erection of needless ego defenders as of late.

I have calmed way down versus just a couple of years ago. I think much more critically and logically than I used to, and I have a much better grip on my emotions.

Not to mention my mood is way better. I feel pretty damn good most of the time.


I know exactly what you mean, I think it's something we all go through. As our give a fuck level naturally drops we don't really care to remove someone to prove a point. I'd rather be internally peaceful/relaxed than angry, and I won't give someone the power to take that from me.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:18 pm 
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zogler wrote:
Jared wrote:
Muscles are what burn calories.


Let's set the record straight.

Our metabolism, often known as resting metabolic rate (RMR), is driven by muscle but not the muscle we work on in the gym. It is driven by our vital organs. The combined energy expenditure of the heart, lungs, kidneys, brain and liver represent approximately 80% of the TDEE (total daily energy expenditure). Muscle tissue contributes approximately 20% to TDEE, whereas fat tissue contributes approximately 5% (for individuals with about 20% body fat).
Apparently, the amount of muscle we can put on our biceps our our chest is going to have little impact in the big picture.
http://www.ideafit.com/fitness-library/ ... tabolism-0


Good to know another view always. 8-)

I´d like to add that just to keep and build the muscle I get,
I have to EAT more Energy.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:46 pm 
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Training routine will usually take about 40 minutes
plus 30 to 60 minutes cardio walking, jogging, biking,
wind sprints or stone skipping. (yes, throw it and let go.)

Good thing to own is a home gym. Just finished 4 minutes
ago, eating while training too. Protein-ate and all.

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Ok so finished guitar recordings in the studio, that means
I get to train muscle very hard from now on at least for
6 months until the next album. (Couldn´t risk earlier,
it´s because my picking hand always goes out of accuracy
when battling w/ +100% weights. )

+3 months of training behind me, will extend workout
duration, w/ superadded programs.

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For getting strength workout is important so it is good if we do workout at gym. For getting fitness it is important to have some fitness goals so that we can compare our present condition with our future goals. It is very useful for everyone to have fitness goals.Last year i had my fitness goal to lose 10 kg weight and did it.


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Some tips from Dom Mazzetti, real pro :D:D:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHBLxCPmnVc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS-oRydlnCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7ncGVIn3IU

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Just to add some advice - I've been keeping a workout log for the past month. This has led to the biggest gains weight and strength wise that I've ever experienced.

Simply open a new excel sheet, make separate tabs for separate days and check the table before you go work out. The goal is to beat the previous weeks numbers, whether it's by lifting bigger weights, more reps or more sets (although I seldom do that). You're guaranteed to push yourself in the gym week in and week out.

It's also a nice way to track progress and see improvements.

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Jasson wrote:
For getting strength workout is important so it is good if we do workout at gym. For getting fitness it is important to have some fitness goals so that we can compare our present condition with our future goals. It is very useful for everyone to have fitness goals.Last year i had my fitness goal to lose 10 kg weight and did it.

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