I think ManniJa has something very interesting to share with you.
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| Author: | AlexJ [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Protein powder |
Does anyone have a recommendation for a decent protein powder? One that's not too pricey or filled with tons of unnatural additives. |
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| Author: | The Kidd!! [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Protein powder |
I think ManniJa has something very interesting to share with you.
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| Author: | Altair [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Protein powder |
Yep, good old milk. It has whey and casein, two of the main proteins they put in protein shakes which are a complete and utter waste and garbage. Chocolate milk and peanut butter sandwhich is the best you can get for a post workout meal as well |
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| Author: | zogler [ Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Protein powder |
The Sunwarrior Vegan Raw Protein (http://www.sunwarrior.com/products/sunwarrior-protein) seems to be one of the best and safest choices but only if you are or aim to become a bodybuilder and need excessive amounts of protein. Read these articles concerning two vegan bodybuilders: http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/shortord ... builde.php http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/shortord ... _sprou.php But most importantly you should realize that the famous high protein intake myth is a counterproductive exaggeration which serves the huge profitability of the meat and dairy industries. I suggest you read as much as you can (also watch youtube videos) from John McDougall, Caldwell Esselstyn, T.Colin Campbell and his famous China Study, Neal Barnard and Dean Ornish. Begin with these articles: http://www.nealhendrickson.com/mcdougal ... erload.htm http://www.vegsource.com/news/2009/11/h ... l-phd.html http://www.all-creatures.org/images/hea ... rmites.pdf |
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| Author: | Rolan [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Protein powder |
Vegan Bodybuilder has to spend literally all day eating just to maintain that physique....at the cost of his health. We'll see in 20-30yrs the results of his spending all day eating whole-grains, nuts/seeds and legumes. Man must fart like a rhinoceros. He'd be far better off eating tubers than that shit. |
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| Author: | StephenP [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Protein powder |
Morpheus/zogler That's interesting. I have read a book called the protein myth which says you really don't need more than 60-80g of protein even if lifting hard. However then I read on forums people saying they didn't start seeing gainz until they upped their protein to 150-200g per day. It would be interesting if this were a myth and I could stop eating all this bland chicken and choking down protein powder. And I'm talking specifically for putting on muscle, not just living on a vegan diet. EDIT: Check that, the book is called How Much Protein by Brad Pilon. I actually have a link to the pdf if anyone is interested pm me. |
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| Author: | Flow83 [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Protein powder |
Thanks for the info and I look forward to whatever else is offered. I am not even remotely close to body builder, i'm a skinny dude but do have some muscle definition. I am vegetarian and super picky food wise so I use some powder since I don't eat meat or too many high protein foods but am willing to abandon it entirely for better options if they are easily doable. I did a lot of clease diet / fasting type stuff so my body tends to be super sensitive, if something doesn't agree with me I usually know it within 15 minutes and this protein powder (i'll write it down when I see it, i just know what it looks like) - i don't get any of my signals that something is off and usually feel satisfied. I tend to have it after working out. |
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| Author: | AlexJ [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:37 am ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: Protein powder | |
Morpheus/zogler
That's interesting. I have read a book called the protein myth which says you really don't need more than 60-80g of protein even if lifting hard. However then I read on forums people saying they didn't start seeing gainz until they upped their protein to 150-200g per day. It would be interesting if this were a myth and I could stop eating all this bland chicken and choking down protein powder. And I'm talking specifically for putting on muscle, not just living on a vegan diet. EDIT: Check that, the book is called How Much Protein by Brad Pilon. I actually have a link to the pdf if anyone is interested pm me. StephenP do you follow the Adonis Index Workout Programs? |
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| Author: | StephenP [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Protein powder |
No, I'm following Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe |
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| Author: | zogler [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Protein powder |
How many sets?: http://www.cbass.com/NEWEVIDE.HTM How Much Protein Do We Really Need?: http://jeffnovick.com/RD/Newsletter/Ent ... _Need.html Protein Requirements: http://jeffnovick.com/RD/Newsletter/Ent ... ments.html Also, read JeffN's replies to these topics: http://www.drmcdougall.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6845 http://www.drmcdougall.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5015 |
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| Author: | Sparks [ Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:39 am ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: Protein powder | |
No, I'm following Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe
I went from skinny to jacked in just a few months with this plan. I cannot recommend it highly enough for getting strong. Literally nothing increases strength faster than heavy compound lifts like the 5 that are used in this book (plus pullups). They are fundamental.
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| Author: | Alchemist [ Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Protein powder |
Sparks, link to this publication pls.
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| Author: | StephenP [ Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Protein powder |
http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/ ... ength_Wiki Here's the wiki. The book is worth it though no PDF as far as I know |
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| Author: | Ray [ Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:23 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Protein powder | ||
Sparks, link to this publication pls.
Keep in mind that this program and its wiki is made for beginners. If you have already been lifting for several years, this program will not severely benefit you. It can help to "balance" your body. However, a proper weight lifting program should already possess most, if not all, the exercises in Starting Strength.Now to the original poster: protein powder is not necessarily needed. To a common weight lifter, protein powder will not drastically improve weight lost or strength gain. Thus, no fat or slim milk is more than adequate to satisfy protein requirements, which is based on body weight and type. Remember to only drink milk after the work out.
Morpheus/zogler
As stated, protein requirements depend on body weight and type. Research a bit; i believe the starting point is 1-2g per kilogram for a body builder. From there, adjust to yourself. Remember that a good ratio of protein to carbohydrates is necessary to gain muscle. A big jump from 60-80g to 150-200g is unnecessary.
That's interesting. I have read a book called the protein myth which says you really don't need more than 60-80g of protein even if lifting hard. However then I read on forums people saying they didn't start seeing gainz until they upped their protein to 150-200g per day. It would be interesting if this were a myth and I could stop eating all this bland chicken and choking down protein powder. And I'm talking specifically for putting on muscle, not just living on a vegan diet. EDIT: Check that, the book is called How Much Protein by Brad Pilon. I actually have a link to the pdf if anyone is interested pm me. |
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| Author: | StephenP [ Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:28 am ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: Protein powder | |
As stated, protein requirements depend on body weight and type. Research a bit; i believe the starting point is 1-2g per kilogram for a body builder. From there, adjust to yourself. Remember that a good ratio of protein to carbohydrates is necessary to gain muscle. A big jump from 60-80g to 150-200g is unnecessary.
Ya, from some research I found one study that said 80g for a male weighing 180lbs showed no significant detriment to those taking 1g per bodyweight. Sounds like around 100g is perfectly adequate for a male 180-210lbs approx. And this is very easy to achieve without dedicating your life to the 'tein brah
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