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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:40 pm 
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I recently just found out, through facebook, that one of my friends is engaged to be married. While cruising through his wall noting all the congratulations, I thought to myself "shit I have to give a facebook congrats" instead of the public wall post I decided to send him one through a private message and follow up with a phone call which I did.

During this act of congratulating my friend on his engagement to a women, I started to think to myself why the fuck am I congratulating him, he hasn't climbed a tall building, he hasn't saved a dying cat, he hasn't drank a 1 gallon jug of milk in one sitting, he hasn't even done anything remotely close to anything that I consider congratulating in fact I would place going a full day without saying bitches higher up the congratulations pole than someone getting married, what do you think about that bitches?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:35 pm 
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Sheep mentality.

Peer pressure.

Social presssure.

Take your pick.

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An honest response would have been to sympathise with the person receiving the compliment, rather than complimenting them.

However society would frown on this as it goes against the rules.

I find it is a lot more honest and open that way... And makes for interesting conversations..

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:21 pm 
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peregrinus wrote:
Sheep mentality.

Peer pressure.

Social presssure.

Take your pick.

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An honest response would have been to sympathise with the person receiving the compliment, rather than complimenting them.

However society would frown on this as it goes against the rules.

I find it is a lot more honest and open that way... And makes for interesting conversations..
I'm often afraid of talking too much about this stuff with some people, some of them when they hear it understand it's the truth on deep level, but they are afraid to do the steps neccesary to break from the matrix, then they suffer resentment and regrets - and I feel responsibility for breaking their illusions and making them suffer


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:37 pm 
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fufe wrote:
peregrinus wrote:
Sheep mentality.

Peer pressure.

Social presssure.

Take your pick.

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An honest response would have been to sympathise with the person receiving the compliment, rather than complimenting them.

However society would frown on this as it goes against the rules.

I find it is a lot more honest and open that way... And makes for interesting conversations..
I'm often afraid of talking too much about this stuff with some people, some of them when they hear it understand it's the truth on deep level, but they are afraid to do the steps neccesary to break from the matrix, then they suffer resentment and regrets - and I feel responsibility for breaking their illusions and making them suffer
I also have a hard time talking about marriage with most people. My first reaction, when I hear of an engagement, is to feel bad for the man.

Many of my co-workers are only a few years older than me (I'm in my early 20's) and they are married. We are all well-paid professionals, and they all serve the provider role with their families. They often lament having to attend to their family's needs outside of work (for example, going on a family trip to the zoo instead of playing poker with their male friends).

In contrast, I am an active, single, young man. I have hobbies that I love, and do some crazy partying on occasion. They act almost jealous of the opportunity I have to devote time to myself and my interests.

I brought up my views on marriage once with them, but stopped myself because it seemed like a scornful rejection of the way they have chosen to live their lives. It would be almost mean to do so.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:46 pm 
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I brought up my views on marriage once with them, but stopped myself because it seemed like a scornful rejection of the way they have chosen to live their lives. It would be almost mean to do so.
Excellent...it is not your place to attempt to forcibly unplug others from the Matrix. :geek:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:43 pm 
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Sparks wrote:
I brought up my views on marriage once with them, but stopped myself because it seemed like a scornful rejection of the way they have chosen to live their lives. It would be almost mean to do so.
This would have been a mistake...

Much better to hear their views on marriage, seeing as they have experienced it.
It would also open them up, to you and to themselves.

Funnily it would probably end up in close to the same conversation, however driven by them rather than by you.
Sparks wrote:
They act almost jealous of the opportunity I have to devote time to myself and my interests.
They are, pure and simple.

and this:
The Kidd!! wrote:
Excellent...it is not your place to attempt to forcibly unplug others from the Matrix. :geek:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:44 pm 
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Excellent...it is not your place to attempt to forcibly unplug others from the Matrix.
I totally agree, I'm pretty new and can't say that I'm totally unplugged yet but every time I try to explain anything about what is on this forum people often attack me and defend the matrix. It's much better to find your own way out, even if you need a few signposts on the way!


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