Natural Freedom

The guy details an experience out one night....just seems to be pestering people.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-7525.html

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"Truth is not something that can be truly and deeply understood by having it spoon-fed to you." - Adyashanti

I skimmed through this story in the end he says:
Because he went out 'sarging' instead of just going out to have fun - that's why it sucked.

If you like high end clubs- go there. If you don't like these places then don't go there...
never do anything for the purpose of 'sarging'...

I almost never visit fancy night clubs because I don't like them. I prefer the less fancy clubs and bars because they energy is much better in those places- that's how it is here where I live anyway.

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

What I meant by the post was that he was just pestering women and was totally oblivious to the club dynamic. He was being applauded for his persistence, when really he was being stupid. If he'd laid back a bit maybe he would have observed signs and gone from there.

Doing something wrong 1,000 times does not make it right!

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"Truth is not something that can be truly and deeply understood by having it spoon-fed to you." - Adyashanti

Come on, how are these dudes any different than Rion and Etienne going to other countries to get women who are perceived as low class and low social status?

It's OBVIOUS to see that their so called game doesn't play out. It's fool's mate. No matter what jargon these dudes throw at high social status girls they won't get laid, and it's not because their game sucks. It's not a matter of improving their gaming skills.

I live in Latin America, and I can tell you for a fact that foreigners are very successful with middle to low class women. By foreigners I'm talking about a nordic looking person, who is fit and above average height. However, in middle to high social status venues they get NO attention, unless they belong to a social circle. You will get the sort of reaction seen by the dude in the article.

By the way, these upper social status women sometimes are not necessarily wealthy. Some are middle class but they are perceived as socialite because most of them are really hot.

This is my issue with Roosh's advice and game in general, especially with the claim being made that if you get better at gaming you will improve your odds at getting middle-high class women who go to high status venues. Yeah, good luck with that.

He would be better off stating the TRUTH. He goes for women who perceive him as higher status than they are, and among other factors, are attracted to the fact that he is a foreigner, author, etc.

They are attracted to who he is, NOT HIS STUPID GAME.

Check out Roosh's articles on Denmark where he claims women are ugly. I have read many articles claiming the opposite. The truth is most women in Denmark are working professionals and are extremely independent, most are used to wealth, meaning that the foreigner ploy doesn't count for shit. Aaron Sleazy writes about it in more detail.

Yeah I am familiar with Roosh's thoughts about the Danes. I think he is just tries WAY too hard. I enjoy reading his blog for book reviews and entertainment purposes. I recall his time in Argentina was especially difficult although better than Denmark I guess.

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"Truth is not something that can be truly and deeply understood by having it spoon-fed to you." - Adyashanti

I don't think Rooshv has game at all, stated in the thread below.

http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopi ... =15&t=1873

Anyone who follows Rooshv's advice is well on his way to being a trick.

I do recognize that some people are just meant to trick and symp.

Also, Rooshv does not get women.

I remember in one of his books that he said a good "player" gets like 8 new women a year.

This number is horrible and very false and shows his trick and symp. attitude. Thousands of guys are following his symp. and trick advice.

It doesn't usually take more than 1.5 weeks to cop a female. Rooshv's number with his mastery of game should be closer to 60-90 women a year since he spends all day doing that shit.

That's variable, sometimes it takes months.

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"Simply put, you being in her life is a BLESSING. Her wronging you in any way is her own self-inflicted CURSE, and if she does wrong you, then let the punishment fit the crime. Her life will absolutely SUCK without you."

You aren't choosing from the ones who like you well then.

That sometimes should be "rarely" or "occasionally".

Remember what Kidd said about patience?.

Now that I'm in a relationship though they're showing interest (funny how that works).

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"Simply put, you being in her life is a BLESSING. Her wronging you in any way is her own self-inflicted CURSE, and if she does wrong you, then let the punishment fit the crime. Her life will absolutely SUCK without you."

Yeah you're right. Patience is important. If you think 1.5 weeks isn't standard for you then it's not standard for you.

rkd is basically correct...if she is choosing you hard enough it will be quick if YOU want it to...if she is just jockin' (ie: She likes you but is also weighing other options), it could take a bit longer, especially depending on how much effort you feel like putting forward to get past security at the time.

But yeah...this Roosh's mindset is trash.

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In that case they've all been jockin' ass hoes.

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"Simply put, you being in her life is a BLESSING. Her wronging you in any way is her own self-inflicted CURSE, and if she does wrong you, then let the punishment fit the crime. Her life will absolutely SUCK without you."