I can relate, I once dated a girl who was in to me. We went on three dates, she paid for herself on the second date and even paid for me on the third.
But after the third date she told me how she dated this AFC and that she was not really into him but he bought her gifts and always paid for her- so she enjoyed it and went out with him for two months.

(of course he never got sex from her)

but when I heard that it really turned me off and I stopped seeing her. Even though she was nice to me I saw her as ugly in nature and not an X-factor.

Well if she's really a bitch but only desperate for you because of your value then it's really easy to be logical knowing that she doesn't give a fuck about you, only the value you bring and what you can do for her and how you make her feel.

The million $$ question is if a genuinly nice girl actually exists that isn't that way because of desperation, but enjoying helping people and wanting to be a nurturer. I've never seen one personally, and I've been with my fair share of brauds.

You guys are getting it all fucked up. Doesn't MATTER how she treated the AFC...that was HIS FAULT. She wasnt HIS X-Factor...she was YOURS. Like I said, my chick might run some of you into the ground...only because you would LET her. She doesn't try that shit with me...because she knows I wouldn't let her.

You guys are getting rid of perfectly good X-Factors based on technicalities that could be 'debugged' from her 'OS'.

I'm sorry but I don't agree...
If a woman is good in nature she should be good to everyone...

I'm not saying she should date AFC's but at least not use them.

and in ManniJa's case:
that women showed she was ugly in nature (even though it was not towards him).

I'll give you an example: Me.
I respect All women who respect Me. So if I date a girl who showed me respect - if I don't want her I'll still be honest with her and give her respect- even though she is not my keeper.

Doesn't MATTER how she treated the AFC...that was HIS FAULT. She wasnt HIS X-Factor...she was YOURS.|

@Dali

it seems to me like you are giving bitches an approval to be bitches. It's Ok to use AFC's because they are 'asking for it'?

No it's not...

This sounds like Zan's shit- women are perfect it's all the men's fault. If a guy is an AFC that don't mean a bitch should use him. Just like if I meet a girl who is stupid or naive - I can use her to get sex and then dump her But I won't do that And I won't say that 'she had it coming because she is stupid or naive'.

I have met girls in the past (not many, just a few) that were a bit naive. They wanted a relationship and I was not intrested. I could have manipulated them into having sex with me and then dump them but I didn't and wouldn't do that.

So stop giving bitches a free pass to be bitches and say it was the AFC's fault

I don't think you're getting this dude, what Kidd and Dali have been saying (from what I understand) is that suckers will get played, the weak will always be preyed upon, it's human nature.....it's unrealistic to expect anyone else to share your moral values.

I believe most women would treat a sucker like a sucker regardless of how nice they may be to people in general, because they're conditioned to from an early age, I have women friends who are kind people but they've still acted this way in various degrees towards sympish dudes, that's just the way it goes.

Harsh as it sounds, being a sucker/symp/amorati etc. warrants gold diggers and the like to play them, thinking about this a few months back, when I took my ego out of the equation I realized that women who've done me dirt in the past just treated me accordingly, not saying I deserved it as such but my sucker behavior warranted their reaction and behavior towards me, does that make sense?.

I think the idea here is to not let them get away with treating YOU like this, because you're above it.

Of course they would not treat Me like this. I just don't think it's right to treat Anyone like this- just like I would not use a naive woman. But I see the point, not everyone shares the same values as me.

But I don't like this: 'the guy deserve it because he was an Amorati\AFC\symp'
an Amorati\AFC\Symp is not an asshole or a bad man. you see what I mean?

Of course they would not treat Me like this. I just don't think it's right to treat Anyone like this- just like I would not use a naive woman. But I see the point, not everyone shares the same values as me.

But I don't like this: 'the guy deserve it because he was an Amorati\AFC\symp'
an Amorati\AFC\Symp is not an asshole or a bad man. you see what I mean?

I don't really care how she treats others...although my lil mama is generally nice to most everyone. If she wasn't, Im sure it would be something I could work on her with. Honestly, I actually have a thing for women who are mean as hell to everyone else BUT me.

Ok I see. I thought you were defending bitches and there are enough symps doing that already. But now I see you are not defending them, you just say: this is how it is...

Man...I'm glad these guys took care of this while I was asleep...I was DREADING spending all of today beating you over the head with this.

Man Snipes...Rion really fucked you UP.

Good job, guys.

no ManniJa, the kidd offer her much more than the clout and front

Lol where I got confused was because you used the term "Circumvention", so to me it seemed that an x-factor was your x-factor regardles of your front and clout...but now it's clear that it's just a bitch who is hooked on the front and clout you have...one who's heiarchy list matches exactly what you're work'n with.

About the nice girl thing, even if the chick was super nice to me but she killed puppies in her off time...I would defenitly toss that x-factor...so it would matter to me how she behaved away from me and treated others.

All an X-Factor is...is your average chick who, because your front and clout are damn near exactly what she is looking for subconciously and consciously (in addition to intangibles like your moral/value set), almost instantly submits and lets you lead with little to no resistance.

In other words, the more you maximize yourself, the greater number of women will 'transform' into an X-Factor...for YOU. It's like the anti-Agent Smith in the sense of his ability to become any person who sees you...kind of like that.

My keeper probably wouldn't be your keeper...hell she might even try to run you into the ground. But for me, there isn't much she wouldn't do. You can apply the converse to whomever your keeper turns out to be, but honestly, my skeleton key fits a loooooooooot of locks.

Just kidding...and I hope this clarifies things.