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Author:  Resonance [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Your Origin

Hey I was reading some things in your section and something started bothering me, even though you told us how you came to the point in your life you are living now what made you want to get on other peoples forums ? What mares you want to spread the gospel of the kidd ? I'm very curious about this ........

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Your Origin

Well, I'm too busy and lazy to maintain my own forum...and I can't just stand by and let unsuspecting young men continue to get manhandled by these ruthless ass women (generally speaking)...and if I end up making a pretty penny for this here and there that's cool too. 8-)

Author:  Sniper [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Your Origin

@Kidd

you said you are going to write a book. what's up with that?

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Your Origin

It's coming along...I'll be making an announcement before the end of the year...look forward to it. Sniper...I'm gonna talk to you offline about pricing and distribution...so start gathering some data on that for me...thanks. 8-)

Author:  Resonance [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Your Origin

The Kidd!! wrote:
Well, I'm too busy and lazy to maintain my own forum...and I can't just stand by and let unsuspecting young men continue to get manhandled by these ruthless ass women (generally speaking)...and if I end up making a pretty penny for this here and there that's cool too. 8-)
Why don't you just do this full time then while focusing on your music thing ??

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Your Origin

Because you yahoos, nor my music, are currently supporting my lifestyle. ;)

Author:  Sniper [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Your Origin

you know Resonance, lately there is not so much money in the dating\seduction community Biz. as before...

lately I have seen a lot of teachers giving free bootcamps and the number one PUA company in London is now giving products for free as long as you enroll to their monthly program - But once you enroll you can cancel the membership right away and then you got a bunch of their free stuff that you can keep.

there is a start of a downfall in the seduction community. Guys are much more
sober these days and there are reviews and bashing about teachers and products all over the internet.

Take Zan for example: he is giving free lectures or 'pay what you want' (it's called value for you) for his lectures and seminars.

And I noticed that Mr. R's forum and some other PUA forums are strating to look like an abandon shopping mall.

Even Brent who always made good money from this and his programs were always booked - lately he has emailed three or four times about his new coaching program.

Kidd was smart not to rely on dating\seduction Bizz as the main source of income.

There are also loads of torrent sites that let you download all of the PUA products so these days many people don't pay for products anymore.

It's a market that is not stable and going down

Author:  Sai [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Your Origin

Sniper you are forgetting the most important observation here.
PuA tactics usually fail ( band aid) where as Kidd is providing a full rooting kit.

the other day I was doing some landscaping/gardening and we usually use the weed wacker to cut the grass. I stopped and looked on the ground, a thought came to my mind.

I pay "x" amount of dollars to cut the grass every couple weeks.
isn't it cheaper to get down there and pull out the bad grass roots and all? it is more effective even though it takes a longer time to do.
I'm not saying Kidd can't do it now, but if it was his main focus he probably could have had a fortune if he had dropped his teachings about 7-8 years ago. people are lazy and like quick fixes. even if he did drop a few years back , some people still wouldn't have gotten it. what he teaches is ADVANCED STUFF. I read it way back then, but I still had on rose colored glasses when I did it, so my results were so so.

it is better to seek out his tutoring when you are unplugged or he pulls you out himself.

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:53 am ]
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No...I wouldnt have made much money. I would have been ridiculed like I was at Zan's. Everythin happens for a reason. Like I said, when the seduction community finally implodes, THAT'S when people will finally be ready to listen to me. This forum is the primer...the barometer if you will. This is ground zero. Everything will play out as fate intends it to. :ugeek:

Author:  Resonance [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Your Origin

I see makes sense I definitely get it, you do need to eat and a place to live Kidd.

Yeah I've been noticing in mister Williams emails how he is doing stuff like that as well, it won't be long before the whole thing goes down I'm glad though this B.S. is over with but still there were some truths to what Rion was saying.

the wussification of Man was real, the stuff he said about women is real, but it was the stuff he came up for as solutions that were off the wall kidd thank goodness you came along when you did.

oh well live learn move on right

Author:  Star_Above [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Your Origin

Ya I wouldn't start a compay or anything, just create a book or audio, etc.., some shit, automate it and turn it into a muse so that you sit on your ass while you generate $$.

Author:  Sniper [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Your Origin

Resonance wrote:
the wussification of Man was real, the stuff he said about women is real, but it was the stuff he came up for as solutions that were off the wall kidd thank goodness you came along when you did.

oh well live learn move on right
Quote:
the wussification of Man was real
yes, but this was talked about on the internet way before he started talking about it...
but he did bring that to our attention so I'll give him credit for that.
Quote:
the stuff he said about women is real
Yes and No. The way women act today and the social matrix that gives them power- that's real.
The point he made that women were forced to adapt and they don't really like it deep inside- not so real.
for the most part- women love and enjoy the power that the social matrix has given them. They are not poor victims who were forced to adapt and don't really like it. They love it...

who wouldn't love such power?
(sure some women may not like it but I'm talking about most women)

Author:  Resonance [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Your Origin

The Kidd!! wrote:
Because you yahoos, nor my music, are currently supporting my lifestyle. ;)
One mo thing when are we no longer going to be yahoos :?: 8-)

Author:  Resonance [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Your Origin

Quote:

the stuff he said about women is real

Yes and No. The way women act today and the social matrix that gives them power- that's real. The point he made that women were forced to adapt and they don't really like it deep inside-not so real. for the most part- women love and enjoy the power that the social matrix has given them. They are not poor victims who were forced to adapt and don't really like it. They love it...
The stuff he said about women adapting to the matrix was real that was the part I was talking about .

Fix'd ;)

Although I did forget that minor detail of them being victims he had mentioned anyway what I mean't to say was if the community didn't happened we wouldn't be here right now forging our own path.

Cause and Effect

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