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 Post subject: Re: Advice ?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:48 pm 
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Fufe, it sounds like you need to spend time away from women and fall in love with yourself. When you no longer are thinking about how to x,y or z women...they will start thinking about how to x, y or z you.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:34 pm 
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Fufe, it sounds like you need to spend time away from women and fall in love with yourself. When you no longer are thinking about how to x,y or z women...they will start thinking about how to x, y or z you.
Sure - But no. Only thing I need to do is let go of my resistances to certain things. I won't be able to have a girl when I'm like this even if she comes by herself, happened.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:39 pm 
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You need non-attachment/enlightenment?

I don't get that, personally I need to loose weight. Without a six pack I just won't be able to get the girls, also I hate diet and exercise, don't even ask. Or X, I need to get X before I can Y, Ying without an X may be possible for other people, as shown with abundant examples, but I am not like them. What should I do?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:13 am 
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You need non-attachment/enlightenment?

I don't get that, personally I need to loose weight. Without a six pack I just won't be able to get the girls, also I hate diet and exercise, don't even ask. Or X, I need to get X before I can Y, Ying without an X may be possible for other people, as shown with abundant examples, but I am not like them. What should I do?
I get what you mean, the problem is the I'm just not turned on by sex and I am (and my body is) resisting a lot, if I will let that go it will be much more easy and natural-going.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:29 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:56 pm 
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What's the problem with your problem fufe? I mean you don't have to have sex with anyone if you don't want to.

Maybe it is physiological (i have heard certain drugs and conditions destroy interest in sex) and you need to see a doctor or releave stress (exercise and mediation work good).

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:17 pm 
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The problem is that I want to, but I am having problems feeling good about it ;)

It's like I want to have sex with these girls but as soon as I imagine having it I get shutdown and afraid. It is some kind of belief, if I will let go of that belief, it will go naturaly.

Some people would call this some kind of a sexual disorder but it is not. It is only some kind of belief that produes it


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Sounds like you're trying to tell yourself you want to have sex with these girls, even though your body is telling your otherwise.

What are the benefits of continuing to try to hook up with girls if it leaves you feeling afraid and uncomfortable? Why are you trying to override yourself on this?

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Fufe this all sounds like a 'symptom' to something much much deeper!!

I could be wrong, but I feel like I'm not.

Also, this is a projection, I know that, because I'm dealing with a similar situation myself and reading the tone of your message is what gave me the feeling that it is similar...


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Me too, same thing. I make excuses so I don't have to get to the root of the issue. Like somehow magically it will resolve itself without me facing it, avoiding women is feeding the problem. Making peace with my demons means they have to be let out.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:33 am 
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bliss wrote:
Fufe this all sounds like a 'symptom' to something much much deeper!!

I could be wrong, but I feel like I'm not.

Also, this is a projection, I know that, because I'm dealing with a similar situation myself and reading the tone of your message is what gave me the feeling that it is similar...
Of course it is. In the end it doesn't change the fact that it is stored there as a belief, that is causing all that suffering.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:23 pm 
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fufe wrote:
bliss wrote:
Fufe this all sounds like a 'symptom' to something much much deeper!!

I could be wrong, but I feel like I'm not.

Also, this is a projection, I know that, because I'm dealing with a similar situation myself and reading the tone of your message is what gave me the feeling that it is similar...
Of course it is. In the end it doesn't change the fact that it is stored there as a belief, that is causing all that suffering.
I just don't talk to 'myself' anymore ;)
Who's there left 'behind' to suffer?

The audience is gone

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Jared wrote:
Do not inform truth what it should be or do for you


If something can't be measured than it doesn't exist.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:43 pm 
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caster wrote:
Jared wrote:
Do not inform truth what it should be or do for you


If something can't be measured than it doesn't exist.
I disagree.

Does a falling tree make a sound if no one is around to hear it?

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I'm getting to this point in "trusting the process".

Paradoxically, in my case the more I tried the farther it got away from me.

Other said it here: give yourself space. I really think that I've done what I could do in gathering the info from here, now it's time to let it go and let it do its thing.

Allow myself the space to let things unfold...because what I've been doing hasn't worked.

Does that make sense?


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bliss wrote:

I'm getting to this point in "trusting the process".

Paradoxically, in my case the more I tried the farther it got away from me.

Other said it here: give yourself space. I really think that I've done what I could do in gathering the info from here, now it's time to let it go and let it do its thing.

Allow myself the space to let things unfold...because what I've been doing hasn't worked.

Does that make sense?
Yes. In other words; Let the truth inform you.

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Bingo!


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Somethings are up to us and somethings are not.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:54 am 
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Outgrow Being Unhappy Over Anything

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 Post subject: Re: Advice ?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:51 pm 
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You know I have a question now.

Do you find extravert-extravert relationships functionable ?
I find most (pretty much all) working couples having the introvert-extravert mechanic. (I can differenciate introverted and extraverted person in a split second, even photo is enough, cool huh)
I am mostly attracted to extraverts. They end up choosing introverted dudes over me most of the time.. I feel a lot of pain about this that seems like being extravert and wanting extraverted girls more than introverted girls is just not working, because the choose introverts over me.

I am an ENFJ, I get kinda introverted often, but inside I am extraverted a lot. People sometimes confuse me for an introvert, girls do also.. Whence my broken relationships, what I suspect often happens is that girls get attracted to my introverted side, then they see my extraverted side and they get disinterested because I am not what I was when I started

I am looking into the pain at the moment. Have been for quite some time, no real finding yet. What I don't like is that the feelings I have for women change like weather when I look into these issues, it's hardly real to have any stable feelings for anybody for long. That is what I envy normal people, having lasting feelings for anybody.


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