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Observation, some questions
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Author:  peregrinus [ Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:44 pm ]
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OK, for a moment forget her

I know this will be hard, but do it, bear with me

This job you have:

Do you enjoy it and want it to continue?

Is it helping you on your career path?

How easy would it be for you to find another job with equal if not greater remuneration?

How much of a problem would it be if you were dismissed tomorrow?

How much of a problem would it be if she was a problem at work?

How would your co-workers look on this?

How would management look on this?

How do you look on this?


..

Do not shit where you eat

Author:  Flux [ Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:49 pm ]
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Haha, understood. I'll answer this later in greater detail if I'm required to post it, but I'll drop it.

Author:  Resonance [ Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:23 am ]
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peregrinus wrote: *
OK, for a moment forget her

I know this will be hard, but do it, bear with me

This job you have:

Do you enjoy it and want it to continue?

Is it helping you on your career path?

How easy would it be for you to find another job with equal if not greater remuneration?

How much of a problem would it be if you were dismissed tomorrow?


How much of a problem would it be if she was a problem at work?

How would your co-workers look on this?

How would management look on this?

How do you look on this?


..

Do not shit where you eat
^^^
Basically THIS Grinus said it all. All I have to add is that your read is decent but you are filling up space waay too much but she seems with it (except that part where you 2 was supposed to chill together you fucked that up so many ways it wasn’t even funny :|) . But at the end of the day if you can figure a way to just be platonic friends and focus on establishing a foundation for yourself that is a man of value, more of those occurrences will happen regardless I guarantee it.

Plus I’m not sure of your location but if your area supports Feminism heavy she could easily destroy your life if she feels that you fucked her over in anyway. Just look at the Hollywood situation with Weinstein, Usher, Bill Cosby etc.

Author:  peregrinus [ Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:46 pm ]
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Flux wrote: *
Haha, understood. I'll answer this later in greater detail if I'm required to post it, but I'll drop it.
Please do post, not for yourself

Author:  Flux [ Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:20 pm ]
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Resonance wrote: *
you are filling up space waay too much but she seems with it (except that part where you 2 was supposed to chill together you fucked that up so many ways it wasn’t even funny :|)

Can you tell me what you see, in greater detail? I feel like I need to become a robot.

peregrinus wrote: *
Please do post, not for yourself

Maybe.

Author:  Resonance [ Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:15 am ]
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You don’t need to be a robot you just need to relax and take a few deep breaths, don’t be attached to the outcome enjoy the process change your mindset about the whole journey you are currently on.
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Flux wrote:
After I pocked the dollar, I asked her why give it and she said she didn't know

Space filling Sin #1 Just enjoy that she is qualifying herself to you that she’s letting you know she is a viable mate.
Don’t ask unnecessary questions she most likely won’t understand it herself anyway just as she stated above.

Flux wrote:
I forget who initiates our conversations the most, think it's pretty balanced but I feel like I say "Hi" more. That doesn't mean I try to talk to her all the time though. Our interactions are give and take, neither side willing to concede to the other. 
As long as it happens naturally its fine but she needs to be more worried about you than you are about her. You need to focus on establishing yourself and prioritizing your life, things like this will eventually become the norm.
Tha Kidd!! wrote:
"if you build it they will come"


Space filling sin #2 You saying more than she is
She should be doing the most initiating but this isn’t black and white though, but it is looking more and more like a struggle for control.

Flux wrote:
Later after that convo I ask if she wants to hangout the next day and she says sure. We write down and exchange numbers. I tell her to call me. She asks why I smirk and tell her "to see if you're serious." She huffs seemingly in a mix of exasperation and amusement. I falter a bit here and fill space asking her later if she really would do it but she says yes. 

Next day, wanting to see her I let impatience get the best of me again and text her my info first. She calls an hour later. I text her back asking if that was indeed her, but I get no response. 

When I see her again, she mentions that she had actually lost my number and wasn't sure who was contacting her. I tell her that she had called my phone but she said she didn't yet. So I attributed that phone call to a mistake; she had mentioned that she sleeps with her phone close by, so it could have been an accident
In the first paragraph space filling sin #2 You didn’t commit to nor did you believe in your decision you should ask yourself why, you actually set a really good tone on this end. But you bombed because you were attached to the outcome, success and failure are impostors that should be treated the same its either a blessing or a lesson.
Flux wrote:
 I was pissed she didn't follow through but whatever, things are normal and we still interact. We still touch each other. The last day I saw her that week, as she was walking away from me she tickled a male co-worker's hips with both hands from behind. My co-worker turned around and said something akin to: "That's a little dirty." To which she responded. "I treat everyone like that."

That was interesting. I wondered if she was thinking of my attention at that time.
Sin #3 Getting emotionally invested when you 2 aren’t even dating
You’re attached to the outcome heavy with this girl you should really reflect why you need things to go your way with her.

The fact she went out of her way to do this to someone else was definitely to get a rise out of you it was her shit test number 2 kudos to you on ignoring that shit.

I would let this die honestly for the sake of your job but should she invite you out I would be petty and have her make up for the transgression for failing to follow through on the plan last time you 2 were supposed to chill by having her pay for the date, if you were that upset about the situation but she definitely needs to experience a consequence or she will walk all over you.

Overall I would leave this broad alone if co-workers saw you 2 acting like that in a professional setting either or both of you could get terminated you also really need to think about haters on both dudes and ladies, not everyone there will approve of this relationship and not everyone want to see you succeed. Also you really have to think about Feminism if its heavy in your location you will be going to jail and you will listed as a sexual predator on the internet for the world to see basically should she decide you fucked her over for whatever reason, just look at the Hollywood situation.

If I was you i would slowly ease the tension and just become platonic friends with her, your livelihood should be a priority over vagina but thats your choice. I had typed this differently but each time this session timed out so I will leave it as is and I hoped I answered your questions

Right now I dub thee:
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Author:  Midas [ Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:34 pm ]
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peregrinus wrote: *


Do not shit where you eat

why not? the only reason i see is when you are afraid of loosing something / afraid of somebody..

i could tell you workplace relationship stories, a brothel would look like a monastery in comparison :-)

Author:  peregrinus [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:45 am ]
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Midas wrote: *
i could tell you workplace relationship stories, a brothel would look like a monastery in comparison :-)
Likewise as well.

I could also tell tales of watching it go nuclear on someones ass.

If you are certain in your actions and your motivations, go for it.

For those that have a sliver of doubt in their bones, do not do it.

I stay away from them, it is not fear that keeps me away, it is keeping things clean. I can have enough of that fun and drama away from my worklife if I so desire.. Work is not the place to do that, it is a place to exchange your time/skills for some form of remuneration.

Author:  Resonance [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:25 am ]
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☝🏾This part!

Author:  Midas [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:25 pm ]
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peregrinus wrote:
.. it is not fear that keeps me away, it is keeping things clean.
hmm

Author:  Midas [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:37 pm ]
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Flux wrote:
She wants to fuck.
what is it you have to loose? ;)

Author:  Resonance [ Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:09 am ]
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Midas wrote: *
Flux wrote:
She wants to fuck.
what is it you have to loose? ;)
His job, current standing in society, reputation, if he values those things

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