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Author:  Altair [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:37 am ]
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Started off the night with some drinks, and dinner and then made our way down town.

Been a long time since I have been out, so there was a little bit of tweaking at the beginning of the night. One girl copped attitude but I felt a front blast would have been way overextending so I let it go. Found myself in a couple interesting situations but nothing too out of the ordinary. 8-)

This is the one situation from the night that might deserve a little bit more attention.

This one girl jocking me subtly I was standing on the outside of a group of people so I stopped her on the way by. No fronting at all..interesting..very submissive in general.

She asks me what I do, I just briefly mention it and change the subject. She then asks how old I am. When I ask her how old she thinks I am. She says 24...I thought about going with it and said nah 21. She was 25..I can tell the age thing is about to become an issue.

So I jokingly said "Are you judging me?"
Her; Yeah, kinda your SO young.
Me; Yeah, that's why I told you, judging me is your own mistake.

Lots of hanging out, over in the corner lol. I never kissed her or anything though, just teased. Pushed all her buttons, haha.

Her: Your trouble. And your so young.
Me: Your trouble. Your old and preying on my youth and innocence. Cougar :lol:

Anyways the night ended at a donair shop and I tried to get her to come over. I was content with just sleeping with her once and then calling it a day. But she declined. I attempted to play it off as an innocent thing lol. I was like k come over, its on the way. Stay for a bit then go home I'm tired anyways.

Her; No (while sitting in my lap head under my chin and shaking her head)
Me: Come over
Her: Still no
Me: Just for a little bit
Her: No, your very cute. But no.
Me: K, bye (got up to leave) we added each other on Facebook.

So, I would have been content with a one night stand, but since things have taken a turn this way. I would also be cool, with someone that's kinda like a gf but not really. Like comes over and cooks and stuff like that lol.

Soo, should I contact now and ball steal? Or wait until she gets at me? In this situation which is the best option?

Author:  Dali [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:43 am ]
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The difference between persistence and insistence.

One is able to allow space, the other is not.
One let's you control the ball and steal it, the other didn't even enters to the damn court!

Author:  Altair [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:45 am ]
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I gave her space, put in a little bit of effort in case it was just token resistance but she seemed pretty set on going home. So I let it go.

Author:  peregrinus [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:49 am ]
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Altair wrote:
Her: Your trouble. And your so young.

Her; No (while sitting in my lap head under my chin and shaking her head)

Her: No, your very cute. But no.

we added each other on Facebook.

Author:  rekieter [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:07 pm ]
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Good job Altair - the difference is that you told what you wanted, went for it - NOT ASKING FOR IT, NOT ASKINGFOR HER PERMISSION. good job bro

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:17 pm ]
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rekieter wrote:
Good job Altair - the difference is that you told what you wanted, went for it - NOT ASKING FOR IT, NOT ASKINGFOR HER PERMISSION. good job bro
Good job? What the FUCK are YOU talking about? :roll:

Once he stopped doing and started trying, his fate was sealed. He started off great then suckered out...end of story. :geek:

That's what 'Grinus was pointing out as well. It's like stealing the ball, dribbling it down court past all the defenders then instead of passing to a teammate because Dwight Howard is in front of the basket, he kept attempting the shot and getting his shit swatted...but still wouldn't PASS...get it? ;)

You ask once...if she declines, then make your number available to her and make your exit...it's HER LOSS. Anything more than that is begging and space filling. :geek:

Author:  ahk [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:58 pm ]
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The value of your attention started dropping like a rock after the first no. That's why she downgraded you from 'trouble' to 'cute'. (Puppies are cute. You are cute. => You are like a puppy to me)

I see persistence as a symptom of attachment to outcome and maybe lack of trust in your gut (that she'd come back) and/or trust in your value.

Author:  rekieter [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:10 pm ]
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Yep you're right guys.
So when she said first time no, he should just leave her there right?

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:13 pm ]
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rekieter wrote:
Yep you're right guys.
So when she said first time no, he should just leave her there right?
Are you asking or telling? :|

Author:  rekieter [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:27 pm ]
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both :lol:

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:36 pm ]
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rekieter wrote:
both :lol:
Push ups...NOW. :geek:

Author:  peregrinus [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:45 pm ]
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rekieter wrote:
NOT ASKING FOR IT, NOT ASKINGFOR HER PERMISSION.
Maybe I am missing the point in your post.

By my count, he asked at least 3 times for her permission.

How does this gel with your post?

Or possibly did you not read his properly.

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Altair: why you miss out the part where she transitions to your lap and the bits around that.. Kinda jumps

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:47 pm ]
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See? Better off joining fufe in the corner of the gym. :lol:

Author:  Altair [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:54 pm ]
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Yeah, I fucked up.

Oh well I guess, a little bit of a combination of thinking she probably wouldn't come back and end up playing some game and being drunk. My impatience got the best of me.

Ill just drop it and never talk to her.

Author:  rekieter [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:39 pm ]
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peregrinus wrote:
rekieter wrote:
NOT ASKING FOR IT, NOT ASKINGFOR HER PERMISSION.
Maybe I am missing the point in your post.

By my count, he asked at least 3 times for her permission.

How does this gel with your post?

Or possibly did you not read his properly.

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Altair: why you miss out the part where she transitions to your lap and the bits around that.. Kinda jumps
Yeah you're right. There is one situation I remember which ended with sex and relationship for me. I will simplify it as I don't remember it exactly:
Me: I want you (it sounds stupid but literal translation would be I have a lust for you)
Her: How can you say thing like this!
Me: I didn't say anything bad, I want to have sex with you, when can you come over to my place?
Her: Don't act like a pig, I will not come to your place
Me: Yeah I might be a pig but at least I am honest. So when are you coming to me?
Her: I won't!
Me: Ok bye, see you at my place.
I guess it is the matter of context. Although I wanted her like hell I knew I won't write/contact her ever again. Ithink she might have felt that.
Later that evening she texted me back, "why did you said it to me?"
My reply " I already said to you several times I want to have sex with you"
And then she started writing back etc, and it ended in bed.

My god, now I see what this last relationship I kept whining about did to me. Hell, at least I have a good point of reference in my past

Author:  Slim Titan [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:40 am ]
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Altair wrote:
Her; (while sitting in my lap head under my chin and shaking her head)
Canada must be nice.....

You didn't touch a damn thing?

At this point, there would be a whole lot more touching than talking in my book.

However, I don't usually allow women to get that intimate with me publicly.

Otherwise, you had a good night. Brush off the dust.

Side Note: For the life of me, I cannot remember what front blasting is or how to do it. Nice term drop. I'll have to reread some old posts to find out what that means and see if I'm doing it effectively.

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