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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:19 pm 
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peregrinus wrote:

Women accept this may be a temporary state.

Sadly a lot of men do not, they think it is permanent.

When you are no longer the reason to allow it, it will not be there anymore.
It is down to you as a man.
That perfectly sums up the lesson I'm learning now. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:20 pm 
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What I'm saying is that she does not have our belief system, therefore, from her perspective, it isn't applicable.

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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:41 pm 
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Ok I see, Thank you.

BTW
that reminds me of your story Kidd. Your keeper said she loves you but what she really loved is your value. Once you acted like a different man with different values system- she got spooked & if you didn't know what you know and continued to act like that, then the 'love' would have probably been over.

Intresting story that was:

http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1031

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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:15 pm 
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Sniper wrote:
love between a man and a woman or between friends is nothing more than an exchange of values. Once there is no value the 'love' is gone.
End of thread!

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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:20 pm 
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Sniper wrote:

I beleive in universal\spiritual love but it's not between a man and a woman and it's hard to achieve it. I think people like the dalai lama have achieved it but there are not many like him.
If you can´love yourself unconditionally...

Love yourself first, unconditionally. As within so without.

There are no outer relationships in life, everything is inner.
You can´t point out where your relationship with a woman
exists in the outer world, therefore your relationships are
always within yourself. Consequently, your relationship with
someone is always exactly what you think it is.

That´s how S.Pavlina said it.

Unconditional Love is reached by 0,4% of people, that´s
four in a thousand.

JOY is without polarity, and LOVE is its companion.

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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:49 pm 
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Of course love exists... It's just not what's going on between a man and a woman in a relationship. Many times it's just neediness and they call it love.

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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
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Bonder wrote:
Of course love exists... It's just not what's going on between a man and a woman in a relationship. Many times it's just neediness and they call it love.
Indeed. These two are different things.

Consciousness Levels;

Desire calibrates at 125
Love at 500
Unconditional Love at 540

This is not a Newtonian Universe, Newton himself calibrated
at 499 (Level of Reason, which is in fact a high level in itself).

At 540 there is all kind of phenomena that cannot be explained
by the Newtonian paradigm.

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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:18 pm 
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Jared wrote:
Bonder wrote:
Of course love exists... It's just not what's going on between a man and a woman in a relationship. Many times it's just neediness and they call it love.
Indeed. These two are different things.

Consciousness Levels;

Desire calibrates at 125
Love at 500
Unconditional Love at 540

This is not a Newtonian Universe, Newton himself calibrated
at 499 (Level of Reason, which is in fact a high level in itself).

At 540 there is all kind of phenomena that cannot be explained
by the Newtonian paradigm.
Hi Jared, I'm curious... Who inventend this "Scale of Consciousness Level"?
And what about the numbers?, what is this reference comes from?

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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
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"Motherly Love is unconditional
My opinion: because it's BIOLOGICAL. (Protect, Survival, maybe has some spiritual tie too)


Evolution invalidates that....a mother will routinely kill off the weaker members of the litter to insure the survival of the strong

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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
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Morpheus wrote:
"Motherly Love is unconditional
My opinion: because it's BIOLOGICAL. (Protect, Survival, maybe has some spiritual tie too)


Evolution invalidates that....a mother will routinely kill off the weaker members of the litter to insure the survival of the strong
I know, agree, but read carefully morpheus, this do not invalidate the; Protection & survival logic behind it... and It can be in any order, maintaning the preservation of the fittest specimens.

The balanace nature has... sometimes, can seem ruthless to our sensitive minds... Big Deal.

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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
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Then what's left, when you strip away the illusion...women are too fickle to have any real feelings for.

If I had a choice between being able to experience emotions or not, I'd chose the latter.

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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
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Alchemist wrote:
Then what's left, when you strip away the illusion...women are too fickle to have any real feelings for.

If I had a choice between being able to experience emotions or not, I'd chose the latter.

I concur

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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
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Alchemist wrote:
Then what's left, when you strip away the illusion...women are too fickle to have any real feelings for.

If I had a choice between being able to experience emotions or not, I'd chose the latter.
But You don't... All we can do is accept this.

Isn't this a form of resistance from your part?... just asking.

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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
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It is resistance on my part yes, but when I develop stronger feelings for a girl I can see where it will lead, like a premonition and my gut's always right, I hate fucking up.

It's only when I push those feelings back inside or accept them and they dissolve that things go back to normal and they're attracted again, women indirectly let me know where my mindset is, I don't trust anything they say, if they ever try to tell me something I look for the meaning behind their words and for what purpose they're using them to try and keep me asleep.

Letting go I've only started to learn, I'm exploring finding a balance between the two, I'm fully aware that indulging in my emotions ultimately fucks things up so I opt for pushing them back, at the same time I must accept myself as I am despite these emotions.

So it's a matter of pulling out those weeds I guess, this is what I'm constantly reminded of as of late.

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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
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Resonance wrote:
Alchemist wrote:
Then what's left, when you strip away the illusion...women are too fickle to have any real feelings for.

If I had a choice between being able to experience emotions or not, I'd chose the latter.

I concur
I guess it depends it's good to have your own emotional world. But it doesn't have to play a role in your decisions or collide with other people's emotions.

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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
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spaceman wrote:
Love is not an emotion, it is an energy. A very real and tangible energy that can be felt and known. This is why you say it feels real, because it is real yet your mind wants to convince you it is not. The only amount of Love a person can feel is the amount they allow themself to feel. If a girl says she loves you, and she is genuine in that she does feel love, then she has allowed herself to feel this love because she deems you worthy of love. When she no longer deems you worthy of love she cuts it off within herself, leading her to believe she is no longer in love with you. But she was never in love with you, she just allowed herself to feel Love because, in her mind, you were the reason to allow this love. Unconditional Love is knowing that Love comes from within and that nothing outside can change this unless it is allowed to.
This post is just beautiful :ugeek:

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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
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Morpheus wrote:
I guess it depends it's good to have your own emotional world. But it doesn't have to play a role in your decisions or collide with other people's emotions.
This really hit the nail on the head dude, it's always good to read back for perspective.

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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
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Yeah, sometimes you even find stuff you missed.

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 Post subject: Re: Love doesn't exist
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Motherly love isn´t unconditional because of the
separation between the one who loves (mother) and the
one who is loved (child).

"Love is not to be learned from men." ---Vernon Howard

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