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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:21 pm 
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Well, this ebook has a few nice things but I didn't find anything that made me say 'wow' or that can help me improve my dating life. Most of the stuff written over there I already heard or read about in other places. Most of the content in there has nothing to do with seduction in my opinion.

Charging $137 for a PDF ebook is ridiculous in my opinion (that's what he charges for it today when I'm writing this post).

So I can't really reccomand to buy this ebook....

side note:
Etienne is a nice guy oveall but his posts on realm (Rion's forum) never lead me to any 'aha' moment and some of them were weird and a bit creepy.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:49 am 
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Etienne is a nice guy oveall but his posts on realm (Rion's forum) never lead me to any 'aha' moment and some of them were weird and a bit creepy.
And even dangerous.

But yes Sniper, he seems 2 b a nice guy. Perhaps he has been misled.
Who knows.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:54 am 
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El-Chameleon wrote:
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Etienne is a nice guy oveall but his posts on realm (Rion's forum) never lead me to any 'aha' moment and some of them were weird and a bit creepy.
And even dangerous.

But yes Sniper, he seems 2 b a nice guy. Perhaps he has been misled.
Who knows.
I'd never try anything he reccomands to do (besdies natural grounding- which is safe :) )

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:51 am 
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(besdies natural grounding- which is safe )
Don't know for sure, since it's relatively a new 'technique.'
But obviously almost anything in excess could not be right, even traditional meditation.

And what I've found nonsense is when Rion recommends all-night grounding sessions. That's insane IMO.
And that could be worse if besides grounding all night long you're stretching your pee pee. :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:51 am 
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El-Chameleon wrote:
And that could be worse if besides grounding all night long you're stretching your pee pee. :lol:
Yea grounding too much I think is not so good (just like doing traditinal meditation all night might not be so good....)

and that technique about squessing your pee pee to Thai music videos:

yea I would say don't do that shit, it's fucking creepy :|

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:05 pm 
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Jesus christ....I can't believe I ever listened to that guy. :|

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:39 am 
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Hooey. 8-)

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:51 am 
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What does Reiki have to do with fucking women? Is what I want to know.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:50 pm 
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TheModernLibertine wrote:
What does Reiki have to do with fucking women? Is what I want to know.
What does playing with your chakras have to do with seduction is what I'd like to know...
All the guys I know who are naturals never played with their chakras (most of them don't even know what chakras are :lol: )

Maybe doing chakras work is nice (I don't know) but it has nothing to do with seduction and his ebook is 'supposed to be' about seduction, it is not titled: energy work or healing ebook.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:39 pm 
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He has some good ideas on how sexuality should be natural and how much of an emphasis people on it. I like that part of it.
It can all be much simpler, though. It's amazing how complicated we need to make things.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:17 pm 
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If you think women aren´t important, that is how you treat them,
as unimportant, and personally, I´d never do that.

If you both are in your Natural Character, you can love and respect her
wonderful qualities, and also do the other important things in your life when
you are not with her.

I can say the same things to a woman that I´ve always said, but now my
State is very different, and their response is different, because my capability
to sustain Energy
has grown with all the Chakra work. So when you are
empowered with Polarity, and your Energy is huge, things just happen.

Now, how do I feel when I am in the State?

Like a god, among you other gods and goddesses.

And how do I treat other people?

Read above.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:33 pm 
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Jared wrote:
because my capability to sustain Energy has grown with all the Chakra work.
so where did you learn chakra work?
I think chakra work as described in his ebook is not so usefull.....

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:42 pm 
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Did you guys already check what the Bibliography section
includes? There is a clear reference, if you know how to
look for further information. I recommend you to check it out.

Etienne´s account over here got deleted for some reason.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:43 pm 
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Some of the new ideas may seem a bit stretch to
people here. I can see that this place isn´t open to
all of his ideas, nevertheless he is building his own place,
with his own style and I bet you easily find him if you
google around.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:20 pm 
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Jared wrote:
Some of the new ideas may seem a bit stretch to
people here. I can see that this place isn´t open to
all of his ideas, nevertheless he is building his own place,
with his own style and I bet you easily find him if you
google around.
I think I'll pass :| but if some people find it usefull- cool
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I think some of the things he does are not so good and even a bit dangrous.
if I didn't know better i'd say that he might do stuff like black magic- but it's just a hunch (I have not found concrete evidence to that) but anyway: I'm staying away ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:30 pm 
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I've been in to self help for four years always looking for answers to why I was different, only in 09 did I find out that I actually have an illness which makes me behave differently (same one as Jim Carrey) and there's nothing self help can do for me.
After 100s of reframed beliefs and paradigms and hours of NG it turned out all I really needed was self esteem a la Nathaniel Branden and to not give a fuck. Thats 7.99 and what I learned from this forum and Seven HAbits of Highly Effective People which was a birthday present for reframing paradigms.

TL ; DR
You don't really need Etienne's book. I bought it cos I though I needed it, it doesn't teach anything new, what Nathaniel Branden taught me was new and created massive change over a period of time instead of a band aid or touching myself (ie reiki)

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:51 pm 
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Etienne,

was trying to use our forum for marketing inquiries and self promotion. He had no intention to bring any value here. Also, I'm very open minded, but he talks about demons in energy fields and shit like that which really creeps me out :|

that's why I kicked him out of here.

well, he can always promote himself and talk about demons on the Realm forum which is a ghost town now....

I think this forum will be better without him but if anyone wants him back I can bring him back again.

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This guy is full of shit so I think you did the right thing there Sniper. I read his book. The first chapter is useless, talks about the chakras with no practical advice or relevance. The second one contains a few methods - and some of them are great, except one thing - they are all stolen!! the first three or four are taken from the Sedona Method, another one is Rion's NG, there is a section about tantra which is not practical at all except some PC exercises (something that everyone knows I assume), and of course, he also wrote about Rieki - he said it's good and that we should go and learn it... great advice really, that's why he charges over a hundred dollars for his ebook, to tell us to go and learn Reiki somewhere... Pathetic.

I didn't even bother reading the third part after this and I don't think that people like that should be around here. If someone has no f*cking idea what he's talking about, and also has the nerve to charge for his ebook 130 dollars, then he is a crook just like all the seduction bullshit teachers and he isn't welcomed here.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:58 am 
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This guy is full of shit so I think you did the right thing there Sniper. I read his book. The first chapter is useless, talks about the chakras with no practical advice or relevance. The second one contains a few methods - and some of them are great, except one thing - they are all stolen!! the first three or four are taken from the Sedona Method, another one is Rion's NG, there is a section about tantra which is not practical at all except some PC exercises (something that everyone knows I assume), and of course, he also wrote about Rieki - he said it's good and that we should go and learn it... great advice really, that's why he charges over a hundred dollars for his ebook, to tell us to go and learn Reiki somewhere... Pathetic.

I didn't even bother reading the third part after this and I don't think that people like that should be around here. If someone has no f*cking idea what he's talking about, and also has the nerve to charge for his ebook 130 dollars, then he is a crook just like all the seduction bullshit teachers and he isn't welcomed here.
yea what a stupid ebook and non of that shit has anything to do with seduction or women anyway ;)

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:51 pm 
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lol it seems I made a mistake... A while ago Etienne was charging about 130$ for his ebook so I thought that was the price today. However I entered his site and it appears the price of "Sexual Magnetism" is now 250$ (Canadian dollars)!!!!

What a fucking joke... Good job for kicking him outa here Sniper, it would be really sad if he succeeded in tricking someone here to pay all that money for this book. The funny thing is that all the methods he uses in his book are not his, he took them all from different places. Pathetic.

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