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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:17 pm 
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Your cheque is in the mail by the way!


Best investment I ever made was watching a video on pornotube, next to it was an ad for David D. 'Twas a main causal element in my being here with all my knowledge! Still no blowjob.

However I learned something from Frank Skinner (wooo tangent/digression/thread derailment!).
He made this comedic gesture (i.e joke) about how as a boy he found out that women can give handjobs. Then he learned about the 'vice like grip' etc.

And something from Kim Cattral (Samantha in Sex und das City)
No one can take care of you better than you can.

However thanks to The Mystery Method I knew "what to say and do" so I got to feel a girls boob. Woo hoo! Two years of hard work and I get to feel up a slut!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:46 pm 
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Etienne, I see you and Rion are doing a weekend Workshop for 8-9 people in Montreal.
And I see you guys are charging 800$ from each person.

I'm not saying you guys should teach for free But shit- to put 800$ just to see you (or any other 'teacher') pick up women is a dam lousy investment.

But maybe Me and Kidd should go into this field, it's a great way to get rich over broken men.

For 800$ I can live in a country like Thailand like a King and women will be all over me :lol:
I know it's fake but so does paying this much on seeing someone else pick up women.

Edit: don't give me that speech about hanging out with 'powerful people', investing money on myself or that money is not bad. We have been through that already and I know all about psychology of marketing.

But seriously, I want to see what you have to say.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:37 pm 
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Etienne, I see you and Rion are doing a weekend Workshop for 8-9 people in Montreal.
And I see you guys are charging 800$ from each person.

I'm not saying you guys should teach for free But shit- to put 800$ just to see you (or any other 'teacher') pick up women is a dam lousy investment.
What's the big deal with money? It's a scarcity mentality to look at the price of everything instead of the value.

I'm not asking you anything or taking anything from you. The offer is there, it is for some guys, and it isn't for other guys. That's it.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:20 am 
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Etienne wrote:
What's the big deal with money? It's a scarcity mentality to look at the price of everything instead of the value.
I may be wrong, correct me if I am, I feel the following from reading this discussion:

The people discussing this are looking at the value.

When people cannot accurately assess the value they will receive from something they then tend to look at the cost (in time, money, effort etc) that they will have to expend in order to experience that value.

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For example, if I take myself as a hypothetical example:
- I would have to travel to both of you, which would involve a financial outlay for flights, hotels.
- Time away from work, both in lost income and finding cover for me during that time to keep clients happy and service them.
- The direct cost of the meeting with you.
- Time to digest and integrate any lessons learnt and sort the wheat from the chaff.

As you can see, the cost is not just $800.. It is that figure plus more for the money, quite a bit of time and effort.

Now comes a balance equation which is, do I think that the value of the meeting will be worth the cost (not only financial, total cost - time, money, effort) that I will have to incur to receive that value.

Given that I as of now have no measure of the value I would receive, it is hard to balance this equation. This is when people come up with reasons for not doing things, mainly they are unsure as to if the value received will outweigh the cost of gaining that value. If they feel that the value will not then in their view the cost would be better spent doing something else.

In that sense, saying "It's a scarcity mentality to look at the price of everything instead of the value." is missing the point...
The point is that on some level the person or persons offering the value have failed to communicate to the prospective clients the value contained within the course that they will receive. Hence to the clients the equation is incalculable...

If I had limitless funds and time, I would still pick courses that offered the potential of value to me.. I do not have limitless funds and time, hence I will be even more picky than if I did. In both cases, there is still a calculation as to the value received and the cost incurred.

In my view, charge what you want for whatever you want, it is up to you.. However taking the clients view into mind is always a good thing in my view and something I do in my business life and has held me in good stead so far.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:00 am 
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peregrinus wrote:
Etienne wrote:
What's the big deal with money? It's a scarcity mentality to look at the price of everything instead of the value.
I may be wrong, correct me if I am, I feel the following from reading this discussion:

The people discussing this are looking at the value.

When people cannot accurately assess the value they will receive from something they then tend to look at the cost (in time, money, effort etc) that they will have to expend in order to experience that value.

-

For example, if I take myself as a hypothetical example:
- I would have to travel to both of you, which would involve a financial outlay for flights, hotels.
- Time away from work, both in lost income and finding cover for me during that time to keep clients happy and service them.
- The direct cost of the meeting with you.
- Time to digest and integrate any lessons learnt and sort the wheat from the chaff.

As you can see, the cost is not just $800.. It is that figure plus more for the money, quite a bit of time and effort.

Now comes a balance equation which is, do I think that the value of the meeting will be worth the cost (not only financial, total cost - time, money, effort) that I will have to incur to receive that value.

Given that I as of now have no measure of the value I would receive, it is hard to balance this equation. This is when people come up with reasons for not doing things, mainly they are unsure as to if the value received will outweigh the cost of gaining that value. If they feel that the value will not then in their view the cost would be better spent doing something else.

In that sense, saying "It's a scarcity mentality to look at the price of everything instead of the value." is missing the point...
The point is that on some level the person or persons offering the value have failed to communicate to the prospective clients the value contained within the course that they will receive. Hence to the clients the equation is incalculable...

If I had limitless funds and time, I would still pick courses that offered the potential of value to me.. I do not have limitless funds and time, hence I will be even more picky than if I did. In both cases, there is still a calculation as to the value received and the cost incurred.

In my view, charge what you want for whatever you want, it is up to you.. However taking the clients view into mind is always a good thing in my view and something I do in my business life and has held me in good stead so far.

If I can talk to a bunch of real people who can tell me that after meeting Etienne and Rion and seeing them with women - their dating life and success with women is now crazy beyond their dreams: Maybe it would be worth the effort and the money (just maybe becuase it still could work for some and not work for others\me....)

But here you need to put a lot of money, effort, etc... And maybe it won't make any difference at all. And this is a lot of money after all: boot camp fee, plane ticket, hotel, expenses, missing work or school, etc. And, there is no refund policy....

Even Brent (who has some very good insights on things and helped people improve their game with his podcasts):
his boot camps are expensive as hell And while some people said they got a lot from it, some said it did nothing for them but empty their bank accounts.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:19 pm 
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All seduction gurus are financial rapists, how's that for an affirmation. :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:06 am 
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Etienne wrote:
Sniper wrote:
Etienne, I see you and Rion are doing a weekend Workshop for 8-9 people in Montreal.
And I see you guys are charging 800$ from each person.

I'm not saying you guys should teach for free But shit- to put 800$ just to see you (or any other 'teacher') pick up women is a dam lousy investment.
What's the big deal with money? It's a scarcity mentality to look at the price of everything instead of the value.

I'm not asking you anything or taking anything from you. The offer is there, it is for some guys, and it isn't for other guys. That's it.
I fo shizzle this thizzle.

I got one problemo with prices of bootcamps though and thats the "no refund" policy.

Were there a strong contract that says if certain expectations aren't met after attending said workshop/bootcamp there is a money back guarantee I'd feel safe.

It could be something simple and shit like getting a kiss, phone number or laid. Hell you could even lie and pay a hooker behind his back!:P I'll admit that I care more about getting money, fortunately I'm not a 'guru' :lol:

Thats the only reason I wouldn't attend a workshop or bootcamp anyway.

Like that time for example when you opened a guys sex chakra and he screwed a girl in the street!
If attending one of your workshops or bootcamps could secure me a blowjob, a cuddle and a relationship I'd give you my blood! 22 and the most I've ever gotten was an extremely uncomfortable handjob, a kiss, a feel, and some naked pictures.

Now that I'm sick again (you know what I'm talking about), I'll have to spend all my bootcamp money on rohypnol!:P

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:01 pm 
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Now that I'm sick again (you know what I'm talking about), I'll have to spend all my bootcamp money on rohypnol!:P
Why don't you contact Jacques? He's the one who can help you the most at this point.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:16 pm 
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Etienne wrote:
Aztecsfinest wrote:
Now that I'm sick again (you know what I'm talking about), I'll have to spend all my bootcamp money on rohypnol!:P
Why don't you contact Jacques? He's the one who can help you the most at this point.
Because it would cost him an arm and a leg.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:38 pm 
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Etienne wrote:
Aztecsfinest wrote:
Now that I'm sick again (you know what I'm talking about), I'll have to spend all my bootcamp money on rohypnol!:P
Why don't you contact Jacques? He's the one who can help you the most at this point.
I contacted him and no reply yet.

I've a very active third eye chakra, am more aware of energies than before and am having weird psychic moments. I found a chakra that lies between the genitals and knees some guy called a "link" chakra, messing with that has had affect on the illness, but it might just be the root chakra.

Fun with Anomolies: Was lying in bed and a truck appeared outside there was loads of noise, was almost asleep and an undescribable moment happened when I just knew it was a bin truck.

"Obviously aztec you would have figured that out easily, the noises, the loudness of the truck etc."

Relaax, I know what I'm talking about and what you're talking about, acknowledge: I'm not stupid.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:41 pm 
Subliminals - They sort out of all of my inner issues and insecurities quickly and efficiently. I'm currently using the 6 month alpha transformation at http://www.subliminal-shop.com/ryan


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:27 pm 
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Ryan wrote:
Subliminals - They sort out of all of my inner issues and insecurities quickly and efficiently. I'm currently using the 6 month alpha transformation at http://www.subliminal-shop.com/ryan
Have you considered what's going to happen when you stop using all these supplements? are you going to depend on them?.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:40 pm 
Yes, they are created to be permanent or at least long-term after non-use. It really depends on the person to determine how long you keep the effects afterwards but with these long ones most people keep them for atleast 6 months. I'm doing 2 6 month programs, the alpha male set and the woman magnet set after that. I will rotate them alpha for 6, woman for 6, alpha for 6, woman for 6 and continue that over the course of the next 3 years then a break from them completely. The best thing about them is that they automatically help you release all of that negativity that is in your system and help keep it from building back up in the future (rejecting outside negativity). Once you get through them the first time, the second time doesn't require as much exposure since it's already there you are just strengthening what is there thus making more permanent. Really doesn't take much besides playing a track while you sleep... Better that than relying on 1 hour of writing statements each night telling me who I am (affirmations).


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:52 pm 
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How do you manage to sleep with the noise?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:41 pm 
There isn't any, you can choose between an ultrasonic/silent or a masked with ocean waves. I only use the ultrasonic.


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+Bought a car for my sister so she can go to work and
school, distances long up north. 2 000 €

+Raymond Holliwell´s book Working with the Law. 15 €

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