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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 3:55 pm 
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(This is a post I copied from a site I just started checking out. You can find the post here. I don’t agree with everything he says but he offers some interesting viewpoints.)

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The Possibility of Sex is a book written and published by Alan Roger Currie in 2012. Alan Roger Currie is a black author who has written several books on how to deal with today’s woman in the arenas of dating and human sexual interaction. In this one, he puts the duplicitous tendencies and stupid mind games (“shit tests”) women play on full blast. More direct and modern than Matthew Fitzgerald’s 1999 book Sex-ploytation, Alan Roger Currie turns the tables – especially in a society that consistently panders to women, which includes multiples of books written for women on “the type of men to avoid” in today’s dating scene.

Almost similar to Nicholas Jack’s The Key Logger, this book exposes how women use social media and social gatherings (churches included) to use vulnerable men as bait in order to massage their egos with nonstop flattery. This is especially true amid the epidemic of attention-whoring and flaking among today’s women, regardless if they are in their 20s and 30s, or even if they are the stereotypical MILFs and cougars, race irrelevant.

Currie exposes how women prey on the sexual vulnerability of men who appear too nice = needy, thirsty and impatiently horny. Simply put, those who put women on pedestals and provides with ‘queen’ statuses and goddess recognition are those who are brushed off as losers, walking ATM machines, “play brothers”, “personal entertainers” and “platonic boyfriends” (aka, a shoulder to cry on without reciprocation). The men who score with women are generally those who are labelled as “assholes” or those who are more upfront, direct and straight to the point. Currie describes the latter of the bunch as those who practice “Mode One” behaviour, saying this is the best route to take. That way, absolutely no time is wasted on a woman who does not feel the same way about men who want sex or relationships. The worst that can happen is that scenario is when a woman says “No”, which is her right. As a result, the best response is to move to the next woman or women.

This book begins with an introduction where the author runs into a Latina woman who stopped going to a church in L.A., only because the men were not giving her any attention. Though she was an attention-seeker, she played a dangerous game with men: She admitted that even if she weren’t sexually interested in a group of men, she still wanted them to pursue her sexually, even when she knows she’ll reject them. Sadly, more women are becoming like her. This is where “Time wasters”, dick teasing, and man-stroking come in – which is what hordes of women in The Anglosphere are notoriously known for. Based on my own personal experiences, especially on Facebook and in real-life, the men who appear needy, overtly horny and who treat women as ‘queens’ and ‘goddesses’ are only used to massage the ego of women. Women have zero interest in these men, other than using them to lavish them with gifts, social media ‘likes’ and cash. They, however, give up sex to the few men who won’t kiss her ass, cater to her bullshit, as well as those who will make women wait to have sex with them. Either because he already has access to multiple women, or because it’s used as a methodic ‘trick’ to make women desire him more as time passes.

In today’s world, women are giving up the traditional notion that they are supposed to be more “respectable” and “lady like” by abstaining from sex. This scam enforced by traditionalism and spirituality is why black men and black women were sexually incompatible for a very long time. Today, it is revealed that women are much hornier than men are. They also give in to sexual temptation and urges quicker than men do. This can only be observed on social media, male strip clubs, or upon overhearing conversations in female hangouts. Even then, needy men are no “challenge” to them and are easily predictable. Women have more respect for alpha males, guys with standards, those who publicly shut certain women away and those who remain ‘busy’.

He describes multiple types of women to avoid, such as misandrists (often mistaken as “feminists”), drama queens (who love to start shit), gold diggers, married women who cheat and time-wasters.

Alan Roger Currie breaks down several types of time-wasters. One type is the woman who lures men in with the possibility of sex in attempts to use him as a “platonic sugar daddy” – one who spends money on women without getting sex in return. Unlike sex workers and upscale erotic escorts who are more honest, the latter woman uses men to provide her with free rides on the lifeboat. Other includes attention whores who use men to stroke and validate her ego, which is what they ultimately live for (which is extremely rampant on Facebook, Instagram and other types of social media). Another includes the type who uses the possibility of sex to get a more undesirable man to reduce himself to being her “gossip buddy”. Those types complain about the bad boys and promiscuous studs that they run back to after episodes of drama. They also brag about how much dick they’ve either ridden or sucked to him, which gets him geeked up, believing that one day, he will be able to have sex with her. Men like these sooner or later become psychologically emasculated and is like a male-version of a ‘girlfriend’.

He briefly takes on the double standard pop culture and western media embraces when it comes to domestic violence. For example, in Tyler Perry’s movies when a male character gets attacked or emasculated, female audience members applaud. When male characters, however, attack women (though rap music exposes erratic female tendencies), people complain, call for hearings or attempt to boycott those films or forms of entertainment.

Currie mentions how women use their bodies to prey on male sexual vulnerability, knowing good and damned well most of the men who they dicktease will never have a chance at sex with them – either because the men are needy or not considered ‘sexual material’. I really like one chapter where he explains how he went to visit a friend and a female roommate purposely walked around the place half naked, throwing herself at him. He puts her in check, saying that she needs to cut it out and that he has no interest in seeing her – or any other woman – naked (in nature or photographed) unless he knows well in advance he’s going to fuck her. After telling her this, it came to her as a serious blow. Even though she agreed with his logic, she said that he was taking away her “fun”.

This is considered normal in the age of technological advances and social media – where women post half-naked, fully naked, drunk pictures or “twerk” videos in an attempt to gain hordes of men who will kiss her ass in attempts to express their desire to have sex with these women. Most men have no chance, while few others who are lucky score – as long as they are in shape, have an ‘edge’ and do not appear needy. Most men entertain these women not because they are weak, but because they are bored and very sexual beings. Sadly, women use it to their advantage to hype themselves up or to toy with most men’s lives.

The upside is that in a time where hardly anyone is buying shoes before trying them on first, it gives men and women alike opportunities to ‘window shop’ before spending valuable time approaching them – even if the only outcome is sexual in nature with no strings attached. This is the upside of hypergamy, which is not gender restrictive. The downside is when men and women promises what they cannot deliver, including sex being used as the “carrot on the stick”, making more vulnerable people to different levels of abuse. –Mr. Odessa (May 13, 2015)

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 7:21 pm 
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Alan Roger Currie was on the forum some years ago. You might do well to let him know you've given his backing/support on this forum. In the earlier days, he didn't get a lot of positive feedback from some of the other members including myself.

He hasn't tried to subvert things around here though. Having him explain some of his theories might help, and he can answer questions related to his book.

That 2012 book seems to be after or around the time he was on these forums. He may have been influenced by some of what has been written on here.

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I don’t support the dude (not that I’m against him either). I don’t know him. I was speaking more of the person who reviewed his book.

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 8:56 pm 
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Oh! that was lost on me. I thought you wrote the review and the book was in the link. :P

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I read around his blog and found some post where he named couple women, like ten, and in every case he ended up qriting how they experienced black cock and that white guys suck and the women don't want white guys and hate them etc.
Like what the fuck man.


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fufe wrote:
I read around his blog and found some post where he named couple women, like ten, and in every case he ended up qriting how they experienced black cock and that white guys suck and the women don't want white guys and hate them etc.
Like what the fuck man.


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A person who can stay calm and at peace has made spiritual and mental progress.

Progress is individual.

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Jared wrote:
fufe wrote:
I read around his blog and found some post where he named couple women, like ten, and in every case he ended up qriting how they experienced black cock and that white guys suck and the women don't want white guys and hate them etc.
Like what the fuck man.


A person who sees human beings as purely flesh is spiritually and mentally unevolved.

A person who can stay calm and at peace has made spiritual and mental progress.

Progress is individual.

Quote:
"A self-aware person can love a non-aware person, but the reverse is impossible." ----V. Howard


Goddamn, man, you do know how to leave a "mind=blown" lying around.

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fufe wrote:
I read around his blog and found some post where he named couple women, like ten, and in every case he ended up qriting how they experienced black cock and that white guys suck and the women don't want white guys and hate them etc.
Like what the fuck man.


Mr. Odessa fucks with escorts, so his opinion involving male-female interactions are irrelevant unless someone intends to become a trick. I shared his review about the book to get others’ input though. From what I gathered, Alan was a part of this forum and it may have influenced his current writings.

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fufe wrote:
I read around his blog and found some post where he named couple women, like ten, and in every case he ended up qriting how they experienced black cock and that white guys suck and the women don't want white guys and hate them etc.
Like what the fuck man.


:lol: :lol:

The way you wrote that is hilarious.

White women in America do say that. They are typically the smaller albeit growing portion of white women that will date black men and have interracial children. They understand racism to some degree and reify some racist tropes.

The other larger portion of white women see black men as "monkeys," "gorillas," or other "animals" and won't date outside of their race and masquerade their racism under the premise that they don't find minorities attractive. :|

You also have portion of white women that may not care about race but still don't date black men.

Then you have a smaller portion of white women that date all races and have no preferences. There are very few of them though that actually say and show it with their actions.

These situations are true for black women too and depend on many conditions like the above. :geek:

This situation is true for your country too, The Czech Republic. There is endemic racism towards the immigrant blacks from the Caribbean Basin. However, American blacks that visit are afforded a little more respect and prestige by some and are also hated by others. This is only true because of the popularity of American rap in your country. :geek:

It's pretty much a grab out there. Society creates positive and negative stereotypes that shape weak minds. :ugeek:

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Aragorn wrote:
Jared wrote:
fufe wrote:
I read around his blog and found some post where he named couple women, like ten, and in every case he ended up qriting how they experienced black cock and that white guys suck and the women don't want white guys and hate them etc.
Like what the fuck man.


A person who sees human beings as purely flesh is spiritually and mentally unevolved.

A person who can stay calm and at peace has made spiritual and mental progress.

Progress is individual.

Quote:
"A self-aware person can love a non-aware person, but the reverse is impossible." ----V. Howard


Goddamn, man, you do know how to leave a "mind=blown" lying around.


Individual is human.

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Slim Titan wrote:
Alan Roger Currie was on the forum some years ago. You might do well to let him know you've given his backing/support on this forum. In the earlier days, he didn't get a lot of positive feedback from some of the other members including myself.

He hasn't tried to subvert things around here though. Having him explain some of his theories might help, and he can answer questions related to his book.

That 2012 book seems to be after or around the time he was on these forums. He may have been influenced by some of what has been written on here.


Yea Alan Roger was here on this forum some years ago...
He didn't contribute anything he was mostly trying to say that his book 'Mode One' works after some people here said it doesn't...

I never read 'Mode One' so I can't say if it's good or not.

Anyway that's what I remember about Alan, he was mostly trying to defend his book not really trying to contribute anything.

You can see his posts on this thread:
(I asked Alan if his very direct approach would work if you don't live in a big city...)

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2053

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'Mode One' was written 10 years ago I don't know about his new book and what's in it. If anyone reads it feel free to review it....
Seems like this book was written while he was on this forum or shortly after he left

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Slim Titan wrote:
This situation is true for your country too, The Czech Republic. There is endemic racism towards the immigrant blacks from the Caribbean Basin. However, American blacks that visit are afforded a little more respect and prestige by some and are also hated by others. This is only true because of the popularity of American rap in your country. :geek:

It's pretty much a grab out there. Society creates positive and negative stereotypes that shape weak minds. :ugeek:


Most guys here hate black guys also because they know their bitches would fuck them just to try having sex with a black guy.

I don't know anything about racism about immigrant blacks from Caribbean Basin (Had to google what that is exactly)... People here can hardly tell the difference of those blacks and blacks form the US - I can, but I can also tell the difference between chinese, japanese and korean women (You know what I'm sayin (triple pun also :lol: )) most people here can't at all

I also listen to american rap. But yeah, to be honest, if I wouldn't be visiting this forum a lot and get to know some dudes, I may be racist too lol. Because how media portray most of black people is ghetto, drugs, guns and big share of crazy.

Back to the original topic - Sometimes I think, that giving a specific advice in regards on dealing with women is bullshit. Simply because everybody works differently and different stuff works for different people.. There are some basic rules like spacebut that's about it.. People gotta find their personal style, not copy somebody elses lol. Learn the stuff and then trust your gut at specifics, that's what maybe even saved my life even. When you know you just fucking know.


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Sniper wrote:
Slim Titan wrote:
Alan Roger Currie was on the forum some years ago. You might do well to let him know you've given his backing/support on this forum. In the earlier days, he didn't get a lot of positive feedback from some of the other members including myself.

He hasn't tried to subvert things around here though. Having him explain some of his theories might help, and he can answer questions related to his book.

That 2012 book seems to be after or around the time he was on these forums. He may have been influenced by some of what has been written on here.


Yea Alan Roger was here on this forum some years ago...
He didn't contribute anything he was mostly trying to say that his book 'Mode One' works after some people here said it doesn't...

I never read 'Mode One' so I can't say if it's good or not.

Anyway that's what I remember about Alan, he was mostly trying to defend his book not really trying to contribute anything.

You can see his posts on this thread:
(I asked Alan if his very direct approach would work if you don't live in a big city...)

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2053

Edit:
'Mode One' was written 10 years ago I don't know about his new book and what's in it. If anyone reads it feel free to review it....
Seems like this book was written while he was on this forum or shortly after he left



Yeah, I looked through the comments. I have not read the book, so I don’t know how it entails being direct to achieve your desired results, but directness is necessary because a closed mouth doesn’t get fed, but tactfulness reigns supreme because a player/mack has to be able to read the situation he’s in and act accordingly.

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but directness is necessary because a closed mouth doesn’t get fed, but tactfulness reigns supreme because a player/mack has to be able to read the situation he’s in and act accordingly.


agreed esp. if you live in a small town....

Most pick up artists\dating teachers who write books about the direct approach with an attitude of 'I don't care about tact or how I'm seen'.....are usually traveling so in another country they don't care what the girls who meet them will think about them.

The ones who aren't traveling live in big cities and often deal with drunk girls in bars....

Since I live in a small town I had to develop my observation skills which in the end saved me a lot of time even while I was traveling. If you detect girls who like you then there is no need to approach 100 women and get shot down.

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TheKing_65 wrote:
Sniper wrote:
Slim Titan wrote:
Alan Roger Currie was on the forum some years ago. You might do well to let him know you've given his backing/support on this forum. In the earlier days, he didn't get a lot of positive feedback from some of the other members including myself.

He hasn't tried to subvert things around here though. Having him explain some of his theories might help, and he can answer questions related to his book.

That 2012 book seems to be after or around the time he was on these forums. He may have been influenced by some of what has been written on here.


Yea Alan Roger was here on this forum some years ago...
He didn't contribute anything he was mostly trying to say that his book 'Mode One' works after some people here said it doesn't...

I never read 'Mode One' so I can't say if it's good or not.

Anyway that's what I remember about Alan, he was mostly trying to defend his book not really trying to contribute anything.

You can see his posts on this thread:
(I asked Alan if his very direct approach would work if you don't live in a big city...)

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2053

Edit:
'Mode One' was written 10 years ago I don't know about his new book and what's in it. If anyone reads it feel free to review it....
Seems like this book was written while he was on this forum or shortly after he left



Yeah, I looked through the comments. I have not read the book, so I don’t know how it entails being direct to achieve your desired results, but directness is necessary because a closed mouth doesn’t get fed, but tactfulness reigns supreme because a player/mack has to be able to read the situation he’s in and act accordingly.


IMHO (not humble often at all :lol: ), Mode One has a place in your repertoire of skills/actions/conversation. It has been years since I've read the original book. I have little to add about his current book, which should have many changes and adaptions in light of the recent political climate. However, the overall philosophy of Mode One should not have changed.

In respect to the general philosophy, Mode One is a useful if redundant book. I'm not sure if redundant is accurate. For purposes of brevity, I'll quote what The Kidd!! and Jared have written in the past and give a few examples related to a scant part of my experiences.

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You guys still don't see the whole picture. :lol:

It's not about playing hard to get...it's about STALKING EFFECTIVELY. :geek:

It's a Sniper's gut game...knowing when to wait and knowing when to take the shot. Sure you factor in variables like wind, target movement, obstacles, etc...but when the time comes, it's a gut feeling that makes you pull the trigger. :geek:

...and while one target has yet to become ready, other targets may already be in range. You can take those out while the others aren't ready yet. Bottom line is, you're always moving on something that's ready to be moved on. ;)


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Grapes, mangos, oranges....

Effective reading on basics


Often you get shitty as grapes, however grapes come a dime a dozen. They're pretty much like weeds and sprout up in a much shorter time span than mangoes or oranges. Grapes stay on the ground. The good mangoes are way at the top of the tree, and you have to wait until they fall for the mangoes to be exceptionally delicious and ripe. This is not the case with grapes and oranges. Oranges are typically ripe at a certain time and not located to a specific section.

grapes = ground vine - fast burner and plentiful.
oranges = middle tree - average in both cases.
mangoes = top tree - slow burner and less than average.

Again for brevity, you don't need to treat a grape the same way as you treat a mango or orange. In fact, you shouldn't treat them the same way. Women don't treat us the same way. If we look like daddy material then women will put and put and put before putting it in the hole until their score is high and we look ripe enough (mango). Some women are just fine with us in the moment (orange). Some women want us really bad like weeds grow and cling to us (grape).

In the same way, there are plenty of ugly or less than average women attracted to us with low leverage based on looks (grapes or lemons maybe). There are some decent average looking that are attracted to us (oranges) with medium leverage based on looks. There are some exceptionally attractive women that have high leverage based on looks (mangoes).

[note: the leverage does not apply to us since we by default are immune to their conception of the balance of power since we are indifferent to having them. This applies to other men. However, in a room (environment) full of symps/tricks her leverage with them will reflect her beauty and consequently it will change her shit-or-get-off-the-pottedness.]

Mode One comes into play when you're dealing with a lot of grapes and oranges. They are less exotic, view their self as having less power, and are more likely to accept one time deals, open relationships, or no strings attached. If the woman views herself as a mango then you're SOL at using Mode One.

The reason I said Mode One is useful if redundant is that if you have read a fair amount of experiences on the forums then you can extrapolate when or when not to be direct. The other factor that comes to my mind that makes the book redundant is that if you're being chosen by a woman and you don't think she meets your standards for a relationship then you should facilitate fast sex as soon as possible to just keep her off your schedule and out of your time slots. Your time is valuable. Alternatively, if you're young and just care about having sex then it makes sense to just speed up the process and get your squirrel on.

The last and most important reason I think Mode One is unnecessary but useful is that you only be using Mode One as reciprocation. If a woman is choosing you--has complimented you, touched you in personal ways, done things for you, admitted defeat, any of the signs etc.--and asks you, "What are you looking for?" This is the perfect time for you respond with something like, "I'm looking for easy sex."

Her: "What do you mean by easy?"
Me: "Have you heard of Little Ceasar's pizza Hot-N-Ready's?"
Her: "Yes."
Me: "Then you know what I my mean by easy sex. So, pick a time and day that works well for both of us and let's hangout."

Then you're pretty much done. Grapes won't give you any trouble about it. All you have to do is wait for them to hit you up. If they don't hit you up then it's not your problem. It's her problem. She asked you what you were looking for. If you get any flack for being honest about sex then check her, "You asked me what I was looking for. Unless you have a problem with the truth then you shouldn't have a problem with me being honest."

Oranges and mangoes will more than likely give you problems, and it is possibly the reason why other people knocked Mode One. You can pull the same thing of with oranges and mangoes so long as you have the balance of power. She needs to want you more than you want her etc. Nothing you haven't heard before. So when she eventually kicks that, "What are you doing tonight?" "What are you looking for?" "What do you like in women?" you can respond accordingly.

Most of the time, you shouldn't even treat a grape the same as the orange or mango. You should treat them like pickings they are, something that is in immediate supply. I've meet plenty of grapes, fewer oranges, and fewer mangoes. YMMV.

Something that has been left unsaid is that Mode One is best served with actions. Instead of telling them what's on your mind, you should be showing them what's on your mind. It requires less graphical description and shows more respect for playing the game. This doesn't apply to the contract. You need them to physically or verbally acknowledge the contract, or you need to condition them to the contract with examples of your actions, which isn't suitable to Mode One.

The other reason that you would use Mode One is if you have a grape/lemon that you absolutely don't want to have sex with. They should just be used for mouthpiece purposes seeing how you would construct symbolic imagery in a woman's mind without being too direct. This way, blowing the bitch doesn't have an impact on your perks (property, gifts, cash, clothes, etc. from women).

These are the reasons why Mode One is both useful and redundant. If you're doing everything correctly then you'll have loads of chances to use Mode One. You don't have to proactively use Mode One. You use it in reciprocation to catch a woman that feels like being loose whether she is a grape, orange, or mango. You'll most often get grapes, and you'll save yourself headaches with many grapes and oranges.

This is longer than I wanted, but it pretty much covers why you would use Mode One in the framework of our forum and what the philosophy is.

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Got you. I appreciate your review of his material. That was extremely detailed.

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The last and most important reason I think Mode One is unnecessary but useful is that you only be using Mode One as reciprocation. If a woman is choosing you.......


I think this says it all...
If a woman likes you and chooses you, all you got to do is not fuck up (having your own strong reality and staying there).

But if a woman doesn't like you then you would waste a lot of time and effort just so 'maybe' something will happen in the future.

We talked about this a lot already.....

Also environmental factors play a huge role (as Kidd said) and this is what I told Alan....

If you live in a small town with not many attractive single women because most women are already married and.....you have a lot of high quality single Men around- you will less likely get chosen.

But move into a different environment and you might get chosen a lot more....

haha
I now remember when I was in Hong Kong a few years ago. I'm not Asian, I'm white and I look British. so I was 'different' in that view and I saw a lot of girls stalking me....

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Yeah, women always choose. They’re certain things you can do to invoke a harder choose or change an unsure to a certain, but women always choose. This is also why if you see a woman complaining about the past men in her life, she’s at fault because she chose them. :lol:

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Yeah, women always choose. They’re certain things you can do to invoke a harder choose or change an unsure to a certain, but women always choose. This is also why if you see a woman complaining about the past men in her life, she’s at fault because she chose them. :lol:


exactly....
BTW when I told Alan his method won't work anywhere (environmental factors) he denied it.
well of course he wants to sell his book so I didn't expect him to admit it.

This is the reason most PUAs always travel because they get to experiment in different environments and they don't care if they get rejected because they will not see those women again. I'm not saying Alan is a PUA but I bet he was traveling a lot or lived somewhere where the environmental factor was at his favor

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lived somewhere where the environmental factor was at his favor -Sniper

This is actually a part of the game. You don’t learn and soak up game so that you can convince difficult women to be cooperative. You learn and soak up game so you know how to effectively utilize women that are feeling you and cooperating. If anything, being laced just allows you not to even waste your time with headaches. –TheKing_65

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