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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:44 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:14 pm 
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El-Chameleon wrote:
2 > 1
3 > 2
Nah

1 > 2
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2 = 1

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:26 pm 
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El-Chameleon wrote:
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Nah

1 > 2
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2 = 1

I came here to learn about women not to teach basic math. :lol:
Allow me to explain...

Our math here pertains to the redundancy/repetitiveness etc. of Rion's message thus nullifying any use for more than one of his RELM discs (if you want to get where he's coming from), whether you have one or a thousand of his programs it's all the same, so to put it simply:

Rion = bullshit. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:36 pm 
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Ok so if anyone considers to do coaching\boot camp with Rion (which is usually a a lot of money) you might want to read this first:

I spoke to a guy who went to the bootcamp Rion and Etenne did in Montreal Canada not so long ago (for a cheap price). This guy is advanced, in the sense that he has already saw and read a lot of seduction material and he is already good with women. He heard about 'natural grounding' and Rion's Stimulus response theory and decided to go and check it out. He was planing to visit Canada anyway and thought that while he is at it, he will check out Rion and hopefully improve his skills and take things to the next level.....

Here is what he told me briefly:

"I went to the bootcamp in Montreal to see Rion and Etienne's skills and hopefully learn something from them. I saw Rion trying to get attention from women and fail !!
Etienne is just a normal guy too

with all that 'Stimulus response' theory I expected much more. I really wanted to beleive in this 'natural grounding' thing but I guess it's not what they make it out to be...."

I also spoke to another guy who went to Rion's boot camp in Texas (this boot camp was expensive). When we exchanged messages on facebook I asked him at least twice how the boot camp went and he never answered me and kept changing the subject.
I beleive if it went so good and really helped his skills with women he would have said at least one good thing about it....

Now these are just two people in which I contacted and you can always say that maybe they didn't get it however, because these boot camps or coaching are usually expensive with no refund policy I wouldn't put my money on it and I advise you to do the same...

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:45 pm 
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since i enter here i'm starting to lose interest in NG, i think the idea of the stimulus response it's true and i disagree with the idea of loving all women, NG is not about that, i'm moving to the kidd's phylosophy and i'm intrigued with the indifference which makes sense to me, i don't know if my lack of interest in NG is because i hear here that is not really hellpfull or beacuse maybe is a limiting idea, i'm going to put conclusions later.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:20 am 
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Sir_Michael wrote:
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i'm moving to the kidd's phylosophy
I encourage you to move to your own philosophy based on your own experience. Learn what you can from other guys, but always evaluate it in your own real world experience.
Stop hating on me. :roll:

My shit works...point, end, period...and it doesn't involve any peepee pullin, hypnosis, sublimal MP3's, or any other kind of hooey or tomfoolery. If someone wants to spend some money for some personalized skype sessions, that's fine...other than that there is NO financial investment necessary to gain long and lasting results with my methods.

Maybe you got taken in by some of this seduction bullshit and I can't help that shit...but don't project your bullshit experiences onto me and what the fuck I'M doing...it's not fair to me or the others who would really benefit from injecting some LOGIC into not only their interactions with women, but how to map their road to self improvement and realization as well.

I'm being nice this time...QUIT STEERING PEOPLE AWAY FROM SOMETHING THEY WILL BENEFIT FROM. :|

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:36 am 
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The Kidd!! wrote:
Sir_Michael wrote:
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i'm moving to the kidd's phylosophy
I encourage you to move to your own philosophy based on your own experience. Learn what you can from other guys, but always evaluate it in your own real world experience.
Stop hating on me. :roll:

My shit works...point, end, period...and it doesn't involve any peepee pullin, hypnosis, sublimal MP3's, or any other kind of hooey or tomfoolery. If someone wants to spend some money for some personalized skype sessions, that's fine...other than that there is NO financial investment necessary to gain long and lasting results with my methods.

Maybe you got taken in by some of this seduction bullshit and I can't help that shit...but don't project your bullshit experiences onto me and what the fuck I'M doing...it's not fair to me or the others who would really benefit from injecting some LOGIC into not only their interactions with women, but how to map their road to self improvement and realization as well.

I'm being nice this time...QUIT STEERING PEOPLE AWAY FROM SOMETHING THEY WILL BENEFIT FROM. :|

Guess some people need to do everything that doesn't work to lead them to what does work...to bad the shit that works is right here in front of their eyes and they could save themselves a lot of wasted time by realizing it.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:13 am 
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Oh brother...

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TheModernLibertine wrote:
Oh brother...
Lol if that was directed at me I meant in The Kidd's section...not a fuck'n Rion Williams thread ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:04 am 
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ManniJa wrote:
TheModernLibertine wrote:
Oh brother...
Lol if that was directed at me I meant in The Kidd's section...not a fuck'n Rion Williams thread ;)
The Kidd's stuff works. And I will vouch for that 8-)

The only thing is: you must be ready to handle the truth before you can really grasp it.
if people still think that all women are good if you just 'celebrate them' (like Zan often says) or that women will be all good and fall for you like crazy if you just watch pretty asian smiley girls for 1,000s of hours then - :|

but for people who are ready to handle the truth- The Kidd's stuff is where the gold is

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